When to buy international fund

I am looking to put some more money into an international stock fund.
I already have the fund picked out, but I dont know how to figure out
when a good time to buy would be. I'm the kind of investor that
invested money a couple weeks ago when the market was pretty low, but
wouldn't want to now because of the runup. What indexes would you
suggest I watch to guage market action like I would watch the dji and
nasdaq here in the US? The fund has a lot of money in Europe and
Japan, so those are the only ones I really care about. Any help would
be appreciated.

Scott

Re: When to buy international fund

"Scott" <> wrote in message
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>I am looking to put some more money into an international stock fund.
> I already have the fund picked out, but I dont know how to figure out
> when a good time to buy would be. I'm the kind of investor that
> invested money a couple weeks ago when the market was pretty low, but
> wouldn't want to now because of the runup.

OK, so don't then, since you have already made your mind up.

> What indexes would you
> suggest I watch to guage market action like I would watch the dji and
> nasdaq here in the US?

Would watch Pepsi, if you liked Coke?

> The fund has a lot of money in Europe and
> Japan, so those are the only ones I really care about.

OK, so why watch dji and nasdaq then?

> Any help would
> be appreciated.




>
> Scott
>

Re: When to buy international fund

*sigh* why does it seem 50% of this group takes the time to reply with
nothing of any use. i can honestly say i expect to receive replies
like yours

are you asking would i watch pepsi if i wanted to invest in coke? of
course I would. similar sector.

i said i watched the dow and comp for domestic investing. give me a
break, you knew that.

thanks for the worthless reply. people like you destroy usenet


Gary C wrote:
> "Scott" <> wrote in message
> news:
> >I am looking to put some more money into an international stock
fund.
> > I already have the fund picked out, but I dont know how to figure
out
> > when a good time to buy would be. I'm the kind of investor that
> > invested money a couple weeks ago when the market was pretty low,
but
> > wouldn't want to now because of the runup.
>
> OK, so don't then, since you have already made your mind up.
>
> > What indexes would you
> > suggest I watch to guage market action like I would watch the dji
and
> > nasdaq here in the US?
>
> Would watch Pepsi, if you liked Coke?
>
> > The fund has a lot of money in Europe and
> > Japan, so those are the only ones I really care about.
>
> OK, so why watch dji and nasdaq then?
>
> > Any help would
> > be appreciated.
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Scott
> >

Re: When to buy international fund

Most European indexes are down year to date. This could be a good time to
add to your funds. Japan is also down year to date. You can watch the
European ETF's, they're all indexes, same with Japan. You might even want to
throw in some CEF's, put them on your watch list.

Here's a few symbols for you:
CEE EF EWG GER GF IRL RNE SWZ TRF SNF EWO EWK EWN EZU EWQ EWI EWP EWD EWL
EWU IEV EWG. For Japan, EWJ ITF.



"Scott" <> wrote in message
news:
>I am looking to put some more money into an international stock fund.
> I already have the fund picked out, but I dont know how to figure out
> when a good time to buy would be. I'm the kind of investor that
> invested money a couple weeks ago when the market was pretty low, but
> wouldn't want to now because of the runup. What indexes would you
> suggest I watch to guage market action like I would watch the dji and
> nasdaq here in the US? The fund has a lot of money in Europe and
> Japan, so those are the only ones I really care about. Any help would
> be appreciated.
>
> Scott
>

Re: When to buy international fund

If unsure, put in the minimum and then put in the rest monthly over the
next 12 months.

Re: When to buy international fund

Scott wrote:

> I am looking to put some more money into an international stock fund.
> I already have the fund picked out, but I dont know how to figure out
> when a good time to buy would be. I'm the kind of investor that
> invested money a couple weeks ago when the market was pretty low, but
> wouldn't want to now because of the runup. What indexes would you
> suggest I watch to guage market action like I would watch the dji and
> nasdaq here in the US?

It's unnecessary to watch indexes. If you've already got the fund
picked out, then wait for a pullback in its NAV, maybe 10% or so, before
buying in. Alternatively, just dollar-cost-average your way in.


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Re: When to buy international fund

Thanks Ed, unknown, and Steven. Ed I'll take a look at those symbols.
I thought the indexes were down so I was thinking what you said.

Steven, out of sheer laziness I'd rather not dca into it because then
its a pain in the ass to fill out the spreadsheet I have for my funds.
Maybe I'll wait for a pullback before I send in my check, but 10% does
seem like a lot. If I wait that long it may never happen. I just
figured it'd be a good idea to watch the indexes the fund trends with.

thanks again,
Scott



Steven L. wrote:
> Scott wrote:
>
> > I am looking to put some more money into an international stock fund.
> > I already have the fund picked out, but I dont know how to figure out
> > when a good time to buy would be. I'm the kind of investor that
> > invested money a couple weeks ago when the market was pretty low, but
> > wouldn't want to now because of the runup. What indexes would you
> > suggest I watch to guage market action like I would watch the dji and
> > nasdaq here in the US?
>
> It's unnecessary to watch indexes. If you've already got the fund
> picked out, then wait for a pullback in its NAV, maybe 10% or so, before
> buying in. Alternatively, just dollar-cost-average your way in.
>
>
> --
> Steven D. Litvintchouk
> Email:
>
> Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.

Re: When to buy international fund

If you would like some methodology you could start with a book titled:
"How to Make $1,000,000 in the Stock Market Automatically"
Author: Robert Lichello
Cheap, under $10 for the paperback.
Amazon has used copies for under $1.



If you want to learn about trends, you might want to take a look at "Trend
Following: How Great Traders Make Millions in Up or Down Markets", by
Michael Covel. Check with your local library, they may even have these two
books in inventory.







"Scott" <> wrote in message
news:
> Thanks Ed, unknown, and Steven. Ed I'll take a look at those symbols.
> I thought the indexes were down so I was thinking what you said.
>
> Steven, out of sheer laziness I'd rather not dca into it because then
> its a pain in the ass to fill out the spreadsheet I have for my funds.
> Maybe I'll wait for a pullback before I send in my check, but 10% does
> seem like a lot. If I wait that long it may never happen. I just
> figured it'd be a good idea to watch the indexes the fund trends with.
>
> thanks again,
> Scott
>
>
>
> Steven L. wrote:
>> Scott wrote:
>>
>> > I am looking to put some more money into an international stock fund.
>> > I already have the fund picked out, but I dont know how to figure out
>> > when a good time to buy would be. I'm the kind of investor that
>> > invested money a couple weeks ago when the market was pretty low, but
>> > wouldn't want to now because of the runup. What indexes would you
>> > suggest I watch to guage market action like I would watch the dji and
>> > nasdaq here in the US?
>>
>> It's unnecessary to watch indexes. If you've already got the fund
>> picked out, then wait for a pullback in its NAV, maybe 10% or so, before
>> buying in. Alternatively, just dollar-cost-average your way in.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Steven D. Litvintchouk
>> Email:
>>
>> Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
>

Re: When to buy international fund

"Scott" <> wrote in message
news:
>
> i said i watched the dow and comp for domestic investing. give me a
> break, you knew that.

I've reread that part three times, I stand corrected.

Re: When to buy international fund

Scott wrote:

> Thanks Ed, unknown, and Steven. Ed I'll take a look at those symbols.
> I thought the indexes were down so I was thinking what you said.
>
> Steven, out of sheer laziness I'd rather not dca into it because then
> its a pain in the ass to fill out the spreadsheet I have for my funds.
> Maybe I'll wait for a pullback before I send in my check, but 10% does
> seem like a lot. If I wait that long it may never happen. I just
> figured it'd be a good idea to watch the indexes the fund trends with.

If this is a highly diversified mutual fund, then I don't really see the
difference between waiting for a pullback of X percent in the fund vs.
waiting for a comparable pullback in the European/Japanese indexes.

Has the fund been rising steadily with no pullbacks for a long time? If
not, then how big were previous pullbacks?


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Re: When to buy international fund

Ed wrote:

> If you would like some methodology you could start with a book titled:
> "How to Make $1,000,000 in the Stock Market Automatically"
> Author: Robert Lichello
> Cheap, under $10 for the paperback.
> Amazon has used copies for under $1.
>
>
>
> If you want to learn about trends, you might want to take a look at "Trend
> Following: How Great Traders Make Millions in Up or Down Markets", by
> Michael Covel. Check with your local library, they may even have these two
> books in inventory.

I've never been impressed with investing by trend-following strategies
based on Technical Analysis alone. Fabian is my poster child for my
objections.


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Re: When to buy international fund

Yeah, it has been rising steadily for a long time and just recently had
about a 7% pullback from its highs around March. I guess I pretty
much answered my own question...looks like a good idea to get in now.

I always like timing my entrances with big moves in major indexes.
Regardless if the stocks the fund owns have taken a hit, upward
momentum in the market as a whole is bound to take effect on the funds
holdings...or so i assume...so why not use the index's trend upwards to
my advantage?



Steven L. wrote:
> Scott wrote:
>
> > Thanks Ed, unknown, and Steven. Ed I'll take a look at those symbols.
> > I thought the indexes were down so I was thinking what you said.
> >
> > Steven, out of sheer laziness I'd rather not dca into it because then
> > its a pain in the ass to fill out the spreadsheet I have for my funds.
> > Maybe I'll wait for a pullback before I send in my check, but 10% does
> > seem like a lot. If I wait that long it may never happen. I just
> > figured it'd be a good idea to watch the indexes the fund trends with.
>
> If this is a highly diversified mutual fund, then I don't really see the
> difference between waiting for a pullback of X percent in the fund vs.
> waiting for a comparable pullback in the European/Japanese indexes.
>
> Has the fund been rising steadily with no pullbacks for a long time? If
> not, then how big were previous pullbacks?
>
>
> --
> Steven D. Litvintchouk
> Email:
>
> Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.

Re: When to buy international fund

"Scott" <> wrote in message
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[snip]

> I always like timing my entrances with big moves in major indexes.
[snip]...so why not use the index's trend upwards to
> my advantage?

The objection is that, by using the word "trend," you are assuming that you
know somthing about the future based on observations of the past. If you
really could know the future then, yes, you would be a fool not to use that
information in timing your investments.

My guess is that you don't know the future.

-herb

Re: When to buy international fund

"Steven L." <> wrote

> If this is a highly diversified mutual fund, then I don't really see the
> difference between waiting for a pullback of X percent in the fund vs.
> waiting for a comparable pullback in the European/Japanese indexes.

If you mean "highly diversified" as in the fund moves with the index then I
agree.
I watch the indices and other similar funds to see if a move up or down is
the result of the market or the manager.

Re: When to buy international fund

"Herb" <> wrote

> The objection is that, by using the word "trend," you are assuming that
> you
> know somthing about the future based on observations of the past. If you
> really could know the future then, yes, you would be a fool not to use
> that
> information in timing your investments.
>
> My guess is that you don't know the future.
>
> -herb

What do you think of the moving average convergence divergence indicator
(MACD)? It's an interesting tool that can be tailored to suit the individual
and just might help timers to increase profits.

Re: When to buy international fund

Well, Ed, it's nicer than what I was going to write. I'm surprised Herb
gets out of bed in the morning. Just because he got to work safely yesterday
is no indication of a trend that he might get to work safely today.

btw, all monies are now at profunds. With all good performing funds
blacklisting traders or imposing restrictive early redemption fees, profunds
is one of the few places I can invest without using a hedging strategy. And
hedging is just an attempt to stand still, and I'd rather be making money.

All you timer-bashers can sleep better now knowing that timers are not
diluting your returns and your lousy results will now improve by +0.00001%
this year.

Arne

"Ed" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Herb" <> wrote
>
>> The objection is that, by using the word "trend," you are assuming that
>> you
>> know somthing about the future based on observations of the past. If you
>> really could know the future then, yes, you would be a fool not to use
>> that
>> information in timing your investments.
>>
>> My guess is that you don't know the future.
>>
>> -herb
>
> What do you think of the moving average convergence divergence indicator
> (MACD)? It's an interesting tool that can be tailored to suit the
> individual and just might help timers to increase profits.
>

Re: When to buy international fund

"Arne" <> wrote

> Well, Ed, it's nicer than what I was going to write. I'm surprised
> Herb gets out of bed in the morning. Just because he got to work safely
> yesterday is no indication of a trend that he might get to work safely
> today.

Do you know why Herb gets to work safely?
He has mentioned that he works at home.

> btw, all monies are now at profunds. With all good performing funds
> blacklisting traders or imposing restrictive early redemption fees,
> profunds is one of the few places I can invest without using a hedging
> strategy. And hedging is just an attempt to stand still, and I'd rather be
> making money.

I was reviewing my portfolio recently and was not surprised to find that my
brokerage account is outperforming my funds now as well as in the past. I
don't want the added risk that timing stocks brings at this point but the
numbers speak for themselves. It's very easy to track the results in the
brokerage account because I never add new money. Just need to know the
account value at the close of the previous year. Timing rules.


>
> All you timer-bashers can sleep better now knowing that timers are not
> diluting your returns and your lousy results will now improve by +0.00001%
> this year.
>
> Arne
>
> "Ed" <> wrote in message
> news:
>>
>> "Herb" <> wrote
>>
>>> The objection is that, by using the word "trend," you are assuming that
>>> you
>>> know somthing about the future based on observations of the past. If
>>> you
>>> really could know the future then, yes, you would be a fool not to use
>>> that
>>> information in timing your investments.
>>>
>>> My guess is that you don't know the future.
>>>
>>> -herb
>>
>> What do you think of the moving average convergence divergence indicator
>> (MACD)? It's an interesting tool that can be tailored to suit the
>> individual and just might help timers to increase profits.
>>
>
>

Re: When to buy international fund

Good thing, eh? But, I do see a trend....

Arne

"Ed" <> wrote in message
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>
> Do you know why Herb gets to work safely?
> He has mentioned that he works at home.
>

Re: When to buy international fund

Arne wrote:
> Good thing, eh? But, I do see a trend....
>
> Arne
>
> "Ed" <> wrote in message
> news:
>
>>Do you know why Herb gets to work safely?
>>He has mentioned that he works at home.
>>
>
>
>
What Herb always fails to see is that he also is relying on past
performance of stocks (averaging about 11% return p.a. over the last 200
years or so) to extrapolate into the future so that he hopes that if he
hangs on for long enough he will get that sort of return and beat bonds
and CDs.

His other argument, that he is relying on the future growth of the US
economy to provide this stock price growth, is also a prediction about
the future based on past performance.

He fails to account for the fact that the US may be in the first stages
of a decline a la Japanois, wasting its resources on pointless wars as
new super-powers emerge to replace it, debt mounts and its currency
devalues.

Will the US end up as a remote, oil and water-starved island off the
Eurasian mainland where most of the World's population live, everything
is made and nearly all business transacted? Only those who can predict
the future can say :-)

Re: When to buy international fund

I've been forced into a comfortable corner. I never used to invest in bear
market funds, I'd look for another sector to get into, like utilities, real
estate, etc... now, it just otc bull or bear..... If I'm right more than
wrong, I make money either way. And when one gives me a sell, it means the
other has just given me a buy.

I've said for years we are the modern Romans... I'm not sure what phase we
are in, but it is one of the later stages, where some sectors are carrying
the rest of the country.

Arne

"David Wilkinson" <> wrote in message
>
> Will the US end up as a remote, oil and water-starved island off the
> Eurasian mainland where most of the World's population live, everything is
> made and nearly all business transacted? Only those who can predict the
> future can say :-)

Re: When to buy international fund

"David Wilkinson" <> wrote in message
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[snip]

> What Herb always fails to see is that he also is relying on past
> performance of stocks (averaging about 11% return p.a. over the last 200
> years or so) to extrapolate into the future so that he hopes that if he
> hangs on for long enough he will get that sort of return and beat bonds
> and CDs.

Why would you think I fail to see that? I do indeed expect stocks to
outperform CDs and bonds over the long run but I have no reason to think I
know for sure that that will happen.


>
> His other argument, that he is relying on the future growth of the US
> economy to provide this stock price growth, is also a prediction about
> the future based on past performance.

If the US economy fails to grow, the whole world is in bigger trouble than a
failure of stock investments to outperform alternatives.

>
> He fails to account for the fact that the US may be in the first stages
> of a decline a la Japanois, wasting its resources on pointless wars as
> new super-powers emerge to replace it, debt mounts and its currency
> devalues.

Well, you even say it in French. You Europeans just can't let go of the
last century's dreams of world dominance, can you? Dream on.

>
> Will the US end up as a remote, oil and water-starved island off the
> Eurasian mainland where most of the World's population live, everything
> is made and nearly all business transacted? Only those who can predict
> the future can say :-)

The it that you don't get is that there is no "us" vs. "them." We're all in
the same boat economically and we will all sink or swim, together.

-herb

Re: When to buy international fund

Herb wrote:
> "David Wilkinson" <> wrote in message

>
>>He fails to account for the fact that the US may be in the first stages
>>of a decline a la Japanois, wasting its resources on pointless wars as
>>new super-powers emerge to replace it, debt mounts and its currency
>>devalues.
>
>
> Well, you even say it in French. You Europeans just can't let go of the
> last century's dreams of world dominance, can you? Dream on.
>
Dreams? Your weren't paying attention in History lessons, Herb! The
British, Spanish, Dutch and French empires did variously dominate the
world at different times. The British Empire ruled half the world. We
still probably rule more land area than the US with the UK, Canada,
Australia, New Zealand and the odd Caribbean island. But we don't like
to boast about it. We've been there, done that, got the T-shirt, seen
the film and don't particularly want to do it all again. It's all a lot
of hassle and no one thanks you for it in the end. However, most of our
one-time subjects seem to be trying to emigrate to the UK at the moment
so we can't be all bad.

>
>>Will the US end up as a remote, oil and water-starved island off the
>>Eurasian mainland where most of the World's population live, everything
>>is made and nearly all business transacted? Only those who can predict
>>the future can say :-)
>
>
> The it that you don't get is that there is no "us" vs. "them." We're all in
> the same boat economically and we will all sink or swim, together.
>
> -herb
>
Possibly true at the moment but it won't be in due course as the US
sinks slowly in the west and other countries take over as top dogs. How
does that old Readers' Digest saying go? Be nice to those you meet when
you are on the way up because you will meet them when you are on the way
down.



>

Re: When to buy international fund

"David Wilkinson" <> wrote

> We still probably rule more land area than the US with the UK, Canada,
> Australia, New Zealand and the odd Caribbean island.

Are these countries aware that they are under British rule?

Re: When to buy international fund

Ed wrote:
> "David Wilkinson" <> wrote
>
>
>>We still probably rule more land area than the US with the UK, Canada,
>>Australia, New Zealand and the odd Caribbean island.
>
>
> Are these countries aware that they are under British rule?
>
>
Yes. The Queen was in Alberta, Canada, yesterday, opening a road.

It's not entirely ceremonial either. A few years ago the
British-Appointed Governor of Australia sacked their Prime Minister, and
got away with it. I am not sure he would today though.

The Australians also held a referendum on becoming a republic and
replacing the Queen as head of state with an Australian politician,
presumably as President. However, once they had sized up the possible
politicians they thought better of it and voted to keep the Queen!

I suspect they are waiting for Charles to take over before they declare
independence.

Re: When to buy international fund

"David Wilkinson" <> wrote in message
news:d7221o$k1o$

> What Herb always fails to see is that he also is relying on past
> performance of stocks {snip}


Tomorrow is promised to no one".... Walter Payton, 10/7/84

Re: When to buy international fund

"David Wilkinson" <> wrote in message
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> Herb wrote:
> > "David Wilkinson" <> wrote in message
>
> >
> >>He fails to account for the fact that the US may be in the first stages
> >>of a decline a la Japanois, wasting its resources on pointless wars as
> >>new super-powers emerge to replace it, debt mounts and its currency
> >>devalues.
> >
> >
> > Well, you even say it in French. You Europeans just can't let go of the
> > last century's dreams of world dominance, can you? Dream on.
> >
> Dreams? Your weren't paying attention in History lessons, Herb! The
> British, Spanish, Dutch and French empires did variously dominate the
> world at different times. The British Empire ruled half the world. We
> still probably rule more land area than the US with the UK, Canada,
> Australia, New Zealand and the odd Caribbean island. But we don't like
> to boast about it. We've been there, done that, got the T-shirt, seen
> the film and don't particularly want to do it all again. It's all a lot
> of hassle and no one thanks you for it in the end. However, most of our
> one-time subjects seem to be trying to emigrate to the UK at the moment
> so we can't be all bad.

I wasn't paying attention? I think the Canadians et. al. would be quite
surprised to learn that you rule over them.

>
> >
> >>Will the US end up as a remote, oil and water-starved island off the
> >>Eurasian mainland where most of the World's population live, everything
> >>is made and nearly all business transacted? Only those who can predict
> >>the future can say :-)
> >
> >
> > The it that you don't get is that there is no "us" vs. "them." We're
all in
> > the same boat economically and we will all sink or swim, together.
> >
> > -herb
> >
> Possibly true at the moment but it won't be in due course as the US
> sinks slowly in the west and other countries take over as top dogs. How
> does that old Readers' Digest saying go? Be nice to those you meet when
> you are on the way up because you will meet them when you are on the way
> down.

The way they teach it over here we were quite nice to you folks on the way
up, bailing you out of two world wars and the Great Depression.

-herb

>
>
>
> >

Re: When to buy international fund

"Arne" <> wrote in message
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>
> Just because he got to work safely yesterday
> is no indication of a trend that he might get to work safely today.
>
Probably true for national guard troops deployed in iraq. With IEDs going
off at random, I'd stay home.

Re: When to buy international fund

"Ed" <> wrote in message
news:
> but the
> numbers speak for themselves.
>
Feel free to post your holdings, so that Greg can update us in 2 years how
well you did.

Re: When to buy international fund

In article <vIple.1877$>,
TK Sung <> wrote:
>
>"Arne" <> wrote in message
>news:UOXke.35034$
>>
>> Just because he got to work safely yesterday
>> is no indication of a trend that he might get to work safely today.
>>
>Probably true for national guard troops deployed in iraq. With IEDs going
>off at random, I'd stay home.

40,000 Americans die per year in auto accidents, so IEDs aren't the only
hazard to commuters.


--
"Did you know that most people use ten percent of their brains? I am now
one of them." -- Bart Simpson

Re: When to buy international fund

Gregory L. Hansen wrote:
> In article <vIple.1877$>,
> TK Sung <> wrote:
>
>>"Arne" <> wrote in message
>>news:UOXke.35034$
>>
>>>Just because he got to work safely yesterday
>>>is no indication of a trend that he might get to work safely today.
>>>
>>
>>Probably true for national guard troops deployed in iraq. With IEDs going
>>off at random, I'd stay home.
>
>
> 40,000 Americans die per year in auto accidents, so IEDs aren't the only
> hazard to commuters.
>
>
17,013 of these, or about 40% of the 42,643 auto deaths in 2003 were
alcohol related. Bring back prohibition?

Re: When to buy international fund

"TK Sung" <> wrote

> "Ed" <> wrote

>> but the
>> numbers speak for themselves.
>>
> Feel free to post your holdings, so that Greg can update us in 2 years how
> well you did.

If I thought my holdings would be the same in two years as they are now I
would. To think that they would be, one would have to be as dumb as Greg.

TK $64,536

Re: When to buy international fund

"David Wilkinson" <> wrote

>> 40,000 Americans die per year in auto accidents, so IEDs aren't the only
>> hazard to commuters.
>>
>>
> 17,013 of these, or about 40% of the 42,643 auto deaths in 2003 were
> alcohol related. Bring back prohibition?

The rest were due to cell phones. Forget prohibition, ban cell phone use in
moving vehicles.

Re: When to buy international fund

Drunks using cell phones are the worst....

Arne

"Ed" <> wrote in message
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> "David Wilkinson" <> wrote
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>>> 40,000 Americans die per year in auto accidents, so IEDs aren't the only
>>> hazard to commuters.
>>>
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>> 17,013 of these, or about 40% of the 42,643 auto deaths in 2003 were
>> alcohol related. Bring back prohibition?
>
> The rest were due to cell phones. Forget prohibition, ban cell phone use
> in moving vehicles.
>

Re: When to buy international fund

There are countries where if you are caught driving drunk, you go to
jail...... we have not gotten that smart yet. And the few people I've talked
to from Sweden will not drink even one drink and drive...

In the USA where we are stupid about this topic, we keep thinking if we slap
their hand, they will get the point and sober up..... but then we are stupid
about welfare mothers and fertility drugs and sex offenders and Viagra.....
I think if I were French, I would not like us either.....

I'd like to see people caught driving drunk out on the roads picking up
trash, but, oh, no, that would violate their civil rights...... boo hoo
hoo.... poor baby.

Arne

"David Wilkinson" <> wrote in message >>
> 17,013 of these, or about 40% of the 42,643 auto deaths in 2003 were
> alcohol related. Bring back prohibition?

Re: When to buy international fund

"Arne" <> wrote

> I'd like to see people caught driving drunk out on the roads picking up
> trash, but, oh, no, that would violate their civil rights...... boo hoo
> hoo.... poor baby.

They once tried to have prisoners in Massachusetts do the upkeep on their
prisons. Just about every union in the state was up in arms. That was a long
time ago but I doubt things have changed.

Re: When to buy international fund

"Gregory L. Hansen" <> wrote in message
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> 40,000 Americans die per year in auto accidents, so IEDs aren't the only
> hazard to commuters.
>
True, gotta watch out those who zip in and out of lanes risking their lives
to get further faster. Leadfoots, stock timers and gays disprove evolution.
Viva intelligent design!

Re: When to buy international fund

Nice and lazy, uncertainly fuzzy, but always at a gain without no pain.
Not that spreadsheets aren't a useful tool at times, it's just too bad
they can't predict what fewer opportunties avail while 9 out of 10
indexes drag ass. ANGLX, TAVIX, TREMX, DODFX. The last, European,
isn't what it was turning into the 1st quarter; second may close itself
out before you read this; first is a speculative bias within peer
comparisons. I'm also ignoring Latin American, Brazil, Korean, China
and Indian sectors; but TREMX as I recall has the Russian exposure.
That's figuring fees and short trade penalties at an acceptable risk on
bailouts from sustained, sic unensured, moving NAV. IOW, so far, so
good. Last and only time I've been burned was with TRP while in Japan.
Oh, and please don't forget to mention any surefire starters or proven
trackers like Third Avenue in areas I've left out in your research.

>... out of sheer laziness I'd rather not dca into it because then
its a pain in the ass to fill out the spreadsheet I have for my funds.
Maybe I'll wait for a pullback before I send in my check,