Could this be the start of someting big?

I don't like the way the markets are acting. This latest hurricane could
tighten the thumb screws. I've increased cash from 23% to 35% today and that
could go higher in a short time.
At 23% money markets I had 33% cash when allowing for stock fund cash. This
latest move should bring me close to 50%.

How do you feel about the market? If I had a higher level of confidence that
the market would take a big hit I might buy into an inverse fund but, I
don't feel strongly enough about it now. I'm am becoming increasingly
bearish though.

I'm also thinking of selling EWS and sending that money to LDF or maybe
EFJI, these are two of my strongest performers. LDF is up 42% so far in 2005
so it must be watched carefully. ILF and EWZ are also doing fantastically
well but I don't own these two.

Money market funds are paying over 3% now and while it isn't fantastic it's
better than -3.00% or more.

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

I think the bears are going to be quite happy. Lots of psychological
negativism.. Has people wondering 'what's going to happen next'...

Happy Guy
-

"Ed" <> wrote in message
news:
>I don't like the way the markets are acting. This latest hurricane could
>tighten the thumb screws. I've increased cash from 23% to 35% today and
>that could go higher in a short time.
> At 23% money markets I had 33% cash when allowing for stock fund cash.
> This latest move should bring me close to 50%.

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

Ed wrote:
> I don't like the way the markets are acting. This latest hurricane could
> tighten the thumb screws. I've increased cash from 23% to 35% today and that
> could go higher in a short time.
> At 23% money markets I had 33% cash when allowing for stock fund cash. This
> latest move should bring me close to 50%.
>
> How do you feel about the market? If I had a higher level of confidence that
> the market would take a big hit I might buy into an inverse fund but, I
> don't feel strongly enough about it now. I'm am becoming increasingly
> bearish though.
>
> I'm also thinking of selling EWS and sending that money to LDF or maybe
> EFJI, these are two of my strongest performers. LDF is up 42% so far in 2005
> so it must be watched carefully. ILF and EWZ are also doing fantastically
> well but I don't own these two.
>
> Money market funds are paying over 3% now and while it isn't fantastic it's
> better than -3.00% or more.
>
>
No, I don't like the way the US market is going either. My HSBC American
Index fund keeps going slightly below and above a Moving Average I am
using as a guide. A few weeks ago I switched out of the fund into money
market and then a week or so later back into the fund. Tomorrow I think
I will switch out again, but probably into HSBC Japan Index, which is
showing a lot of strength after their recent election of a reforming PM.

I know you don't set much store by Fabian's methods but, FWIW, Fabian
the Dad's criterion is to be invested when both the Dow and S&P500 are
above their 39 week MAs and out when they are both below. If one is
above and one below you wait and do nothing.

At the moment the Dow is below its MA and the S&P above, but only by
about 1%. If the S&P500 drops below 1199 the criterion indicates trouble
at t'mill and it is time to get out.

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

"David Wilkinson" <> wrote

> No, I don't like the way the US market is going either. My HSBC American
> Index fund keeps going slightly below and above a Moving Average I am
> using as a guide. A few weeks ago I switched out of the fund into money
> market and then a week or so later back into the fund. Tomorrow I think I
> will switch out again, but probably into HSBC Japan Index, which is
> showing a lot of strength after their recent election of a reforming PM.
>
> I know you don't set much store by Fabian's methods but, FWIW, Fabian the
> Dad's criterion is to be invested when both the Dow and S&P500 are above
> their 39 week MAs and out when they are both below. If one is above and
> one below you wait and do nothing.
>
> At the moment the Dow is below its MA and the S&P above, but only by about
> 1%. If the S&P500 drops below 1199 the criterion indicates trouble at
> t'mill and it is time to get out.

I also sold EWS (Singapore) today. Haven't decided what to do with it but I
doubt it will go into US stocks. Japan is looking better and profits should
be ok now that they are outsourcing a lot of their manufacturing to China.
The big problem with Japan and other markets around the world is that the US
is often their biggest customer.

These are 2004 numbers but:
Japan export partners, US 22.7%, China 13.1%, South Korea 7.8%, Taiwan 7.4%,
Hong Kong 6.3%.


If our economy cools then theirs might too! Most of what we get from them is
automobiles and the US auto makers just sold a ton of vehicles under the
"employee discount for everyone" promotion. New cars are everywhere.

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

Ed wrote:

> I also sold EWS (Singapore) today. Haven't decided what to do with it but I
> doubt it will go into US stocks. Japan is looking better and profits should
> be ok now that they are outsourcing a lot of their manufacturing to China.
> The big problem with Japan and other markets around the world is that the US
> is often their biggest customer.

The U.S. market is now more strongly correlated with foreign markets
than it used to be, due to globalization. A major decline in the U.S.
market can't be good news for the Japanese market. And I still don't
think Japan has done what needs to be done to revamp its economy to lift
the Japanese stock market into a new, 10-20 year long secular-bull market.

On the other hand, anything that drags down Russia's stock market makes
it even more of a bargain than it currently is. I'm looking for an
entry point into LETRX so I can buy more shares of it. LETRX has done
very well but it's got more room on the upside.



--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email:

Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

Ed wrote:

> I don't like the way the markets are acting. This latest hurricane could
> tighten the thumb screws. I've increased cash from 23% to 35% today and that
> could go higher in a short time.
> At 23% money markets I had 33% cash when allowing for stock fund cash. This
> latest move should bring me close to 50%.
>
> How do you feel about the market?

I am bearish (though not strongly so) on the market for the immediate
future, but not due to this or that hurricane. Rather, when I saw oil
prices rise past $50 a barrel and keep right on rising, I became
bearish. The scenario of the 1970's is repeating itself today.

I do not expect a massive market crash or major decline. But a
correction of maybe 10-15% wouldn't surprise me.

Since my investments are in fairly conservative "equity-income" funds
anyway, such a correction wouldn't bother me too much and I'm
contemplating just riding thru it.


--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email:

Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

"Steven L." <> wrote in message
news:c0mYe.1483$

>
> I am bearish (though not strongly so) on the market for the immediate
> future, but not due to this or that hurricane. Rather, when I saw oil
> prices rise past $50 a barrel and keep right on rising, I became
> bearish. The scenario of the 1970's is repeating itself today.
>
> I do not expect a massive market crash or major decline. But a
> correction of maybe 10-15% wouldn't surprise me.
>
> Since my investments are in fairly conservative "equity-income" funds
> anyway, such a correction wouldn't bother me too much and I'm
> contemplating just riding thru it.
>

What ever happened to Skip. I think it's time for one of his "wall of
worry" comments.

-herb

PS: You and I are looking pretty smart (lately, at least) being in gold.

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

Too much short weight on weather to bring to bear upon an extended
outlook. Though, if oil's pumping itself again, it's only going to add
momentum to a foreign and hybrid frenzy. Iococca can piss and stomp in
it all he wants, but it won't help the latest fullsize See Me Big
campaigns when Rita comes to party hardy. Even if oil ultimately
justifies its import importing European $8gal standards, one can always
look south to Brazil and sigh - one hell of a well-done sugarcane
ethanol job. India, South America, West Europe - lots of places on an
increasingly global market - and reasons not to rule out some domestic
concession.

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

"Herb" <> wrote

> PS: You and I are looking pretty smart (lately, at least) being in gold.

You will never look smart.

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

"Herb" <> wrote

> PS: You and I are looking pretty smart (lately, at least) being in gold.

BTW, you are not into gold, you are into gold minng companies. There is a
difference.
Smart? MUHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

Herb wrote:
> "Steven L." <> wrote in message
> news:c0mYe.1483$
>
>
>>I am bearish (though not strongly so) on the market for the immediate
>>future, but not due to this or that hurricane. Rather, when I saw oil
>>prices rise past $50 a barrel and keep right on rising, I became
>>bearish. The scenario of the 1970's is repeating itself today.
>>
>>I do not expect a massive market crash or major decline. But a
>>correction of maybe 10-15% wouldn't surprise me.
>>
>>Since my investments are in fairly conservative "equity-income" funds
>>anyway, such a correction wouldn't bother me too much and I'm
>>contemplating just riding thru it.
>>
>
>
> What ever happened to Skip. I think it's time for one of his "wall of
> worry" comments.
>
> -herb
>
> PS: You and I are looking pretty smart (lately, at least) being in gold.

Gold isn't my only hard asset investment.

I have an equal amount in RSNRX. And I haven't been disappointed with
that either.


--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email:

Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

Howdy Ed,

Hadn't seen you around fa . . .thought you got sucked up in one of the
hurricanes.

Well, rita turned out to be much ado about nothing. Cripes, I had
thought that things were going to seriously pause - like you. However,
rather than going to cash, I just went heavier into natural resources,
commodities and precious metals - and I was very long before.

As it turns out, rita's been very good for the market. Today was a huge
day for me and geez, it's been about the best summer I can remember.
BUT, I've as mentioned, I've been long resources and energy and metals.

Oh, one purchase I did make last week was 2 units of GASFX. With
natural gas going from 5 to 12 in the last 12 months, the utes are going
to make a sh*tpot full of $. Some will devolve to the bottom line via
the magic of fixed asset accounting and some will devolve to the
shareholders of which I are.

Right now it looks like its bull market thru the end of the year. By
that time, the fed's continual rate hikes should have killed the housing
market and so '06 will be relatively ugly. However, '05 has been very,
very sweet.

best,

rono


Ed wrote:

> I don't like the way the markets are acting. This latest hurricane could
> tighten the thumb screws. I've increased cash from 23% to 35% today and that
> could go higher in a short time.
> At 23% money markets I had 33% cash when allowing for stock fund cash. This
> latest move should bring me close to 50%.
>
> How do you feel about the market? If I had a higher level of confidence that
> the market would take a big hit I might buy into an inverse fund but, I
> don't feel strongly enough about it now. I'm am becoming increasingly
> bearish though.
>
> I'm also thinking of selling EWS and sending that money to LDF or maybe
> EFJI, these are two of my strongest performers. LDF is up 42% so far in 2005
> so it must be watched carefully. ILF and EWZ are also doing fantastically
> well but I don't own these two.
>
> Money market funds are paying over 3% now and while it isn't fantastic it's
> better than -3.00% or more.
>
>

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

Rono, the markets have been great. My concern is that with higher gasoline
and home heating expenses lightening up and taking some profits can't be all
bad. For me, there is no pension, just social security (maybe) and the few
dollars I've managed to accumulate over the years. I can't afford to be too
bold. The best way to lower our energy bills is to let the energy
stocks/funds help us pay them :)

Lots of stuff to be concerned about going forward. The consumer is the
biggest part of the economy and paying $3 for gas isn't going to make them
happy Christmas shoppers. One report I saw said that people can expect their
energy bill in the Northeast to rise 50% over last year for oil and 80% for
natural gas. That's a bummer. That said, I've already made far more than
I'll need for my heating expenses just from PRNEX alone. This years energy
bills will be on them! Thank you T. Rowe Price.



"Ronald V. Overton" <> wrote in message
news:
> Howdy Ed,
>
> Hadn't seen you around fa . . .thought you got sucked up in one of the
> hurricanes.
>
> Well, rita turned out to be much ado about nothing. Cripes, I had thought
> that things were going to seriously pause - like you. However, rather
> than going to cash, I just went heavier into natural resources,
> commodities and precious metals - and I was very long before.
>
> As it turns out, rita's been very good for the market. Today was a huge
> day for me and geez, it's been about the best summer I can remember. BUT,
> I've as mentioned, I've been long resources and energy and metals.
>
> Oh, one purchase I did make last week was 2 units of GASFX. With natural
> gas going from 5 to 12 in the last 12 months, the utes are going to make a
> sh*tpot full of $. Some will devolve to the bottom line via the magic of
> fixed asset accounting and some will devolve to the shareholders of which
> I are.
>
> Right now it looks like its bull market thru the end of the year. By that
> time, the fed's continual rate hikes should have killed the housing market
> and so '06 will be relatively ugly. However, '05 has been very, very
> sweet.
>
> best,
>
> rono
>
>
> Ed wrote:
>
>> I don't like the way the markets are acting. This latest hurricane could
>> tighten the thumb screws. I've increased cash from 23% to 35% today and
>> that could go higher in a short time.
>> At 23% money markets I had 33% cash when allowing for stock fund cash.
>> This latest move should bring me close to 50%.
>>
>> How do you feel about the market? If I had a higher level of confidence
>> that the market would take a big hit I might buy into an inverse fund
>> but, I don't feel strongly enough about it now. I'm am becoming
>> increasingly bearish though.
>>
>> I'm also thinking of selling EWS and sending that money to LDF or maybe
>> EFJI, these are two of my strongest performers. LDF is up 42% so far in
>> 2005 so it must be watched carefully. ILF and EWZ are also doing
>> fantastically well but I don't own these two.
>>
>> Money market funds are paying over 3% now and while it isn't fantastic
>> it's better than -3.00% or more.
>>

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

Another thing happening is the min. payment on credit cards is going to go
up.. from something like 2% to 4%... so, if someone has heavy debt, and is
paying $200 a month.... it will about double... coupled with increase energy
costs, they are talking about a black xmas.

And more people are going to go bankrupt, and the laws have, or will,
tighten up... not so easy to pass your debts off now, they will have to pay
them I think even if they have to do it for the rest of the lives.....
boo-hoo... about time.

Happy Guy
-
"Ed" <> wrote in message
news:
> Rono, the markets have been great. My concern is that with higher gasoline
> and home heating expenses lightening up and taking some profits can't be
> all bad. For me, there is no pension, just social security (maybe) and the
> few dollars I've managed to accumulate over the years. I can't afford to
> be too bold. The best way to lower our energy bills is to let the energy
> stocks/funds help us pay them :)
>
> Lots of stuff to be concerned about going forward. The consumer is the
> biggest part of the economy and paying $3 for gas isn't going to make them
> happy Christmas shoppers. One report I saw said that people can expect
> their energy bill in the Northeast to rise 50% over last year for oil and
> 80% for natural gas. That's a bummer. That said, I've already made far
> more than I'll need for my heating expenses just from PRNEX alone. This
> years energy bills will be on them! Thank you T. Rowe Price.
>
>

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

--

Happy Guy
-
"happy-guy" <> wrote in message
news:dS%Ze.30167$
> Another thing happening is the min. payment on credit cards is going to go
> up.. from something like 2% to 4%... so, if someone has heavy debt, and is
> paying $200 a month.... it will about double... coupled with increase
> energy costs, they are talking about a black xmas.
>
> And more people are going to go bankrupt, and the laws have, or will,
> tighten up... not so easy to pass your debts off now, they will have to
> pay them I think even if they have to do it for the rest of the lives.....
> boo-hoo... about time.
>
> Happy Guy

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

Socially, laws might benefit a conservative affair <usher in the Age of
Reagan's Supreme Court> in traditional merchantile lineages. Surety as
old as within a merchantile shift from Byzantium to Venice, as a
(vague) certainty to insure bankruptcies ought not be legal
obfusifications for CEOs irresponsableness. All but for the new court
attendants, the statistian, whose detachment oddly draws at poll
correlations, and recent effects negatively skewed: a) 2 of 10 save
money b) medians liquidate at $10K reserves [c) retirement is an
popular misconception of Neverland d) health is prime bankruptcy / SS
will go bellyup 2017]. Then, again, as scientists are apt to observe,
passing phenomena within capital marketing theory needn't purvey soley
over what pragmatic prediliction capitalism or culture has to ensure.

happy-guy wrote:
> And more people are going to go bankrupt, and the laws have, or will,
> tighten up... not so easy to pass your debts off now, they will have to pay
> them I think even if they have to do it for the rest of the lives.....
> boo-hoo... about time.

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

I know several people quite well who have 'declared bankruptcy'. With no
exceptions, they have spent themselves into bankruptcy. Then they dumped the
burden onto others. Another case of 'poor me, can you bail me out'.

Happy Guy

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

Howdy all,

Harvard was releasing a study back when congress was changing the
bankruptcy laws that said that over half of bankruptcies were due to
medical expenses and that most of those folks actually HAD insurance
when their problems began. Geez, my leg problems (pretty much OK now)
probably cost upwards of $500K. If I'd had a 10% copay . . .

best,

rono

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

Hi Ed/all,

Yeah, heating oil and natural gas are going to be nasty this winter.
However, I agree with you that about the only way to soften to blow is
to own the suckers. I've owned XOM for years and both the local utes.
And that's why while PRNEX or RSNRX or PSPFX or even RYVIX don't keep
you from having to pay the long dollar - they sure ease the pain.

Again, this looks like the year might finish strong - assuming you're
in the right places. However, next year is looking grim. With the Fed
raising rates they'll eventually kill the housing market. As
mentioned, credit card cos changing the minimums. Gas at the pump and
nat gas and oil in the furnace. Whatever you do, do be long retail
unless it's homebuilders - and then be careful.

BTW, hurricane season has two months left to go.

best,

rono

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

"rono" <> wrote

> Howdy all,
>
> Harvard was releasing a study back when congress was changing the
> bankruptcy laws that said that over half of bankruptcies were due to
> medical expenses and that most of those folks actually HAD insurance
> when their problems began. Geez, my leg problems (pretty much OK now)
> probably cost upwards of $500K. If I'd had a 10% copay . . .
>
> best,
>
> rono

The medical robbery amounts to the same point that Happy Guy is making.
Those $8 aspirin and $500 xrays are priced that way so you and I can provide
handouts to those wihout insurance. Even the insurance premiums we pay have
a higher than you might think percentage taken out to provide free medical
care for those who can't/won't/don't pay, at least they do in my state, I
can't speak to all of them..

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

We use propane for heat/hot water at one of our houses. 2 years ago, we got
a locked in price of 1.62/gallon, last year 1.82 and this year, on an
agreement signed one week before Katrina, we locked in for this coming year
at 2.08/gallon.

I suspect, this will turn out to have been a very good deal for us.
---------------
btw, Ron, getting bored and slumming over here?/g/...... once my url for my
charts got scrubbed at f/a, not much for me to do over there.....
---------------
I'll stick up another chart at www.freewebs.com/timer-stuff..... getting
very close to a buy, but not quite.

Happy Guy
-
"rono" <> wrote in message
news:
> Hi Ed/all,
>
> Yeah, heating oil and natural gas are going to be nasty this winter.

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

As far as I know, hospitals can not refuse treatment to anyone. There might
be exceptions. That means those who can pay are charged enough to cover
those who can not (similar to our drug prices vs. in other countries; we pay
for research, they get the benefit).....

Now, add to that, doctors are opening, and have been for a number of years,
out-patient facilities that siphon off many of the lucrative procedures,
like colonoscopies, endoscopies, and so on. That means quite a bit of the
easy money has left the hospitals, making their bottom lines even tighter.

Happy Guy
-
"Ed" <> wrote in message
news:

>
> The medical robbery amounts to the same point that Happy Guy is making.
> Those $8 aspirin and $500 xrays are priced that way so you and I can
> provide handouts to those wihout insurance.

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

"happy-guy" <> wrote

> As far as I know, hospitals can not refuse treatment to anyone.

This applies only to hospitals that elect to become public charities. IOW,
they are exempt from paying taxes. Most hospitals fall into this category.

My problem isn't with helping the poor pay for medical care, it's how they
do it. Instead of overcharging some smuck that might just be getting by it's
time they realized that this is a state and national problem. They need to
stop milking those who use and pay for services.

> There might be exceptions. That means those who can pay are charged enough
> to cover those who can not (similar to our drug prices vs. in other
> countries; we pay for research, they get the benefit).....
>
> Now, add to that, doctors are opening, and have been for a number of
> years, out-patient facilities that siphon off many of the lucrative
> procedures, like colonoscopies, endoscopies, and so on. That means quite a
> bit of the easy money has left the hospitals, making their bottom lines
> even tighter.
>
> Happy Guy
> -
> "Ed" <> wrote in message
> news:
>
>>
>> The medical robbery amounts to the same point that Happy Guy is making.
>> Those $8 aspirin and $500 xrays are priced that way so you and I can
>> provide handouts to those wihout insurance.
>
>

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

Howdy Arne,

Not slumming at all. However, with google permitting newsgroup access,
I can get here a hell of a lot easier than before.

Besides, I missed you folks . . . or at least some of you.

There are others that were cretins before and I am sure are still
cretins. teehehe ;-)

best,

rono

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

My biggest problem of all, is the welfare system helps create a larger poor
population. N.O. is a pretty good example. Poor mommas with a bunch of
little kids running around..... we did it to ourselves (speaking about the
gov't supporting the situation). And, it is getting worse. Most will not be
very well educated, and that just means they will be left further and
further behind, with not much to do.... except.... the obvious.

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

Drugs needn't be unremarked within Big Capital Means - business
hand-in-hand with AMA sanction - replete, legal, law-of-the-land
sanction. A basic conflict [of interest] exists within the hippocratic
oath. The majority drug prison population's manners can't be entirely
ignored (or the world's greatest incarceration rates and lawyers per
person per capita). Doctor Spin promotes Big Business's interests, and
America has shown no apparent lack of willingness to adapt to the same
candy on its apples, as it takes on reality tinged with drugs.
Hollywood traces the pedigree, and Nancy Reagan declared it publically
manifest through her 'second-opinion' forfeiture over an honored
ligeance between the hippocratic oath and culpability. The high point
during that particular conviviality included the unveiling of an
astroligical soothsayer for consultation within her stars.

'And Rome fell from equestrian honor, and spread her legs to all manner
of (subservient, tax-paying) faiths.' -Ed Gibbon, Decline & Fall of the
Roman Empire.

> My problem isn't with helping the poor pay for medical care, it's how they
> do it. Instead of overcharging some smuck that might just be getting by it's
> time they realized that this is a state and national problem. They need to
> stop milking those who use and pay for services.
>
> > There might be exceptions. That means those who can pay are charged enough
> > to cover those who can not (similar to our drug prices vs. in other
> > countries; we pay for research, they get the benefit).....

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

"Flasherly" <> wrote in message
news:
> Drugs needn't be unremarked within Big Capital Means - business
> hand-in-hand with AMA sanction - replete, legal, law-of-the-land
> sanction. A basic conflict [of interest] exists within the hippocratic
> oath. The majority drug prison population's manners can't be entirely
> ignored (or the world's greatest incarceration rates and lawyers per
> person per capita). Doctor Spin promotes Big Business's interests, and
> America has shown no apparent lack of willingness to adapt to the same
> candy on its apples, as it takes on reality tinged with drugs.
> Hollywood traces the pedigree, and Nancy Reagan declared it publically
> manifest through her 'second-opinion' forfeiture over an honored
> ligeance between the hippocratic oath and culpability. The high point
> during that particular conviviality included the unveiling of an
> astroligical soothsayer for consultation within her stars.
>
> 'And Rome fell from equestrian honor, and spread her legs to all manner
> of (subservient, tax-paying) faiths.' -Ed Gibbon, Decline & Fall of the
> Roman Empire.
>

WOW!

Do you know NoEd?

He's a professional writer like YOU!

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

Ed wrote:

>The best way to lower our energy bills is to let the energy
>stocks/funds help us pay them :)

I assume you've taken all the usual measures -- weatherstripped,
caulked, sealed duct leaks, and insulated. Duct leaks are usually
significant if sealed only with duct tape, which is one of the worst
tapes to use on ducts. The house should be sealed well enough to
require a heat exchanger.

It's not too popular, but zoning can help a great deal if almost every
room is zoned and the heating/cooling system is controlled with
infrared or motion sensors. Unfortunately this has to be a DIY project
(PIC controller chips) to make economic sense, but my southern Arizona
A/C bill peaked at <$100 this summer for 4400 sq. ft. and would have
likely been $300 without this zoning ($500 with conventional
construction).

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

You must have some fantastic insulation (and a white roof)..... actually,
even then, I don't see how you could do it.

Happy Guy
-
"R. Anton Rave" <> wrote in message ,

but my southern Arizona
> A/C bill peaked at <$100 this summer for 4400 sq. ft. and would have
> likely been $300 without this zoning ($500 with conventional
> construction).
>

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

Gary C wrote:
> > 'And Rome fell from equestrian honor, and spread her legs to all manner
> > of (subservient, tax-paying) faiths.' -Ed of the Gibbons

> WOW!
>
> Do you know NoEd?
>
> He's a professional writer like YOU!

I really do so enjoy lending a collaborative hand whenever one of our
esteemed colleges undertake to better paraphrase a supportive reading
for Sharpe risk-ratio returns.

'We are heralding in an age lacking want, a nation without poverty.' -
Herbert Hoover.

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

More likely, you need something to handle your verbal diarrhea......

Regarding the last, I recall the president saying in the mid 70's: ""Never
again will we be so dependent on foreign oil !!! ""... Jackasses, one and
all.

--

Happy Guy
-
"Flasherly" <> wrote in message >
> I really do so enjoy lending a collaborative hand whenever one of our
> esteemed colleges undertake to better paraphrase a supportive reading
> for Sharpe risk-ratio returns.
>
> 'We are heralding in an age lacking want, a nation without poverty.' -
> Herbert Hoover.
>

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

Freud's later shift from repression to an angst principle, Wilhelm
Reich's character armouring prior to Nazi ostracism, or modern
primitive brainstem and id suppression could be an aide, but for the
time being the economic stuff is nice.

happy-guy wrote:
> More likely, you need something to handle your verbal diarrhea......

> Regarding the last, I recall the president saying in the mid 70's: ""Never
> again will we be so dependent on foreign oil !!! ""... Jackasses, one and
> all.

'Two pyramids for pharohs and two funerals during Middle Age church
processions really is twice as nice; two railroads from London to York
for capitalists is not.' -John Keynes. General Theory of Employment,
Interest and Money.

Re: Could this be the start of someting big?

happy-guy wrote:

"R. Anton Rave" <> wrote in message ,

>>my southern Arizona A/C bill peaked at <$100 this summer
>>for 4400 sq. ft. and would have likely been $300 without
>>this zoning ($500 with conventional construction).

>You must have some fantastic insulation (and a white
>roof)..... actually, even then, I don't see how you could do it.

The roof is brown (copper), but color doesn't matter much if there's at
least a moderate amount of insulation. The dry climate here means big
temperature swings, so the house was built with high mass (insulation
on the outside) and a basement (not that common here). The A/C's
zoning and control system watches people and tries to cool just the
occupied areas, and having 2 A/C units allows almost continuous
operation, which improves efficiency and cuts humidity (these are just
single-speed SEER 12 units). $90 isn't that great for cooling because
another house in the same climate, owned by an inventor, is almost
7,000 sq. ft. and costs $70/month to cool.