Who were Dean Witter and John Boggle?

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Re: Who were Dean Witter and John Boggle?

I's Bogle, not Boggle.

Re: Who were Dean Witter and John Boggle?

LOL!

I know Ed. But EF Hutton was the dude I was trying to hark too
actually. Hutton and Bogle. Compare the two schools there. One talked.
The other one just indexed, eh?
Who ended up making more money for the ones tat listened?

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<> wrote in message
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> LOL!
>
> I know Ed. But EF Hutton was the dude I was trying to hark too
> actually. Hutton and Bogle. Compare the two schools there. One talked.
> The other one just indexed, eh?
> Who ended up making more money for the ones tat listened?

When E.F. Hutton speaks, everyone listens.
I have no way of knowing how individual investors did at each of these
firms.
I would think that EFH made more money for their clients. Vanguard index
funds are passive so people in these index funds are just buying the
haystack while Vanguard does very little in the way helping investors make
money.

Re: Who were Dean Witter and John Boggle?

"Ed" <> wrote in message
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> I's Bogle, not Boggle.
>

It's "It's," not "I's."

Sorry about that; I tried hard, but I just couldn't resist!

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"Don" <> wrote in message
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> "Ed" <> wrote in message
> news:
>
>> I's Bogle, not Boggle.
>>
>
> It's "It's," not "I's."
>
> Sorry about that; I tried hard, but I just couldn't resist!

It's ok, my hand and my keyboard are not a perfect match. Add to that my
limited two finger typing skills and I hope you understand that it was a
typo. I know you do anyway.

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EF Hutton made more money for their clients than Vanguard? Hmm. I
suspect that EF was (is?) a loaded type deal. OK, kudos to fee-paid
advisors. Or did EF Hutton clients have big $$ and thus maybe harder
working brokers?

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"Ed" <> wrote in message
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> It's ok, my hand and my keyboard are not a perfect match. Add to that my
> limited two finger typing skills and I hope you understand that it was a
> typo. I know you do anyway.

I learned a certain skill earlier than most people. I learned to type fast
and accurately in the 6th grade at the age of 9. I don't remember the number
of words per minute, but it was up at the secretarial level. I could type
better then than I can now. I never was any good at football, basketball,
tennis, or what have you. But I sure could type. Did wonders for my
otherwise low self esteem.

Re: Who were Dean Witter and John Boggle?

"Don" <> wrote

> Did wonders for my otherwise low self esteem.

Get over that.

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"Don" <> wrote
> I learned a certain skill earlier than most people. I learned to type fast
> and accurately in the 6th grade at the age of 9. I don't remember the
number
> of words per minute, but it was up at the secretarial level. I could type
> better then than I can now. I never was any good at football, basketball,
> tennis, or what have you. But I sure could type. Did wonders for my
> otherwise low self esteem.

This is one of the best posts to Usenet I've read all week. It reads and has
a message like a part of Garrison Keillor's best stories.

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"Elle" <> wrote in message
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>> This is one of the best posts to Usenet I've read all week. It reads and
>> has
> a message like a part of Garrison Keillor's best stories.

I also learned to recite the alphabet backwards--fast
zyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba
See? I just combined two skills. You can choose to believe it or not, but I
rattled that off in less than 4 seconds.

Re: Who were Dean Witter and John Boggle?

"Don" <> wrote
> "Elle" <> wrote
> >> This is one of the best posts to Usenet I've read all week. It reads
and
> >> has
> > a message like a part of Garrison Keillor's best stories.
>
> I also learned to recite the alphabet backwards--fast
> zyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba
> See? I just combined two skills. You can choose to believe it or not, but
I
> rattled that off in less than 4 seconds.

I think the value of reciting the alphabet backwards is somewhat dubious,
especially compared to typing. I just liked your being able to make hay
from a skill that goes unremarked as an adult, but not as a child, and so
shrinking those puerile hot jock football and basketball players. ;-)

My favorite hot jock typing story: Ninth grade. The school's star athlete
and most popular boy is shooting off his mouth (in an honors math class!)
inisting it is impossible to type more than one keystroke a second; no
action can be completed in less than a second...

He evidently got over this and has since become an investment banker of some
repute, involved in philanthropy, to his credit, in a large city.

Probably some 110-lb hot shot typist thrashed and humbled him in a
competition, and so gave him a change of heart. :-)

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"Elle" <> wrote in message
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> I think the value of reciting the alphabet backwards is somewhat dubious,
> especially compared to typing.

Agreed. The term "idiot savant" comes to mind. But it's fun.

> Probably some 110-lb hot shot typist thrashed and humbled him in a
> competition, and so gave him a change of heart. :-)

A good pianist could prove him wrong too.

Re: Who were Dean Witter and John Boggle?

"Don" <> wrote
> "Elle" <> wrote
> > I think the value of reciting the alphabet backwards is somewhat
dubious,
> > especially compared to typing.
>
> Agreed. The term "idiot savant" comes to mind. But it's fun.

Probably helps maintain memorization skill, too. Or you are a savant. Few
can rattle off the alphabet in reverse with any speed approaching the
forward direction.

But, say, can you rattle off the current S&P 500?

> > Probably some 110-lb hot shot typist thrashed and humbled him in a
> > competition, and so gave him a change of heart. :-)
>
> A good pianist could prove him wrong too.

Ha. I was wondering a little while ago why my piano playing isn't nearly as
good as my typing. It's all muscle memory, after all. Similar number of keys
(counting caps)... etc.

"Very definitely."

Re: Who were Dean Witter and John Boggle?

"Elle" <> wrote in message
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>
> This is one of the best posts to Usenet I've read all week.

Then, you lead a very sheltered and shallow life.

> It reads and has
> a message like a part of Garrison Keillor's best stories.

Who? Name dropping is not very becoming.

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"Elle" <> wrote in message
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> Probably helps maintain memorization skill, too. Or you are a savant. Few
> can rattle off the alphabet in reverse with any speed approaching the
> forward direction.

> But, say, can you rattle off the current S&P 500?

I would have a hard time naming five.

Long ago a teacher of mine said: "Don't memorize facts. Learn where to find
them and how to use them."

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Entry level proficiency may be 35-40wpm. I'm not sure offhand.
Although it would be a misnomer too broadly to encompass a secretary
within professional surroundings. CEO assistants (I,II, & III, legal
assistants, editorial staff, etc.), are no less than thoroughbreds at
scripting. I've known a couple. One I met waitressing - the
proprietor's daughter at a small Chinese restraunt during a brief
liason from her training. She had reached her third-year qualifications
and was able to type 180wpm -- 240wpm, as I recall, being mentioned
within reasonable field expectancy. The other was the prodigy,
degreed, though nevertheless an enlistee, whose exceptional talent it
was to be advanced from rank-&-file conscription into an active core
defense department position at civil service status. As he informed
me, he "jammed" IBM Selectronics (a revolving ball, type-imprinted
engineering design) at what I'd hazard would be 300wpm. But, he also
was able to provide guide tours of Aztec and Mayan Mexican ruins while
only a preteen, and later came to fence at a state championship level,
(besides whatever else I've since forgotten). There's a certain
precocious enterprise that attends people given exceptional means,
something I've again recently encountered over readings from the
English economist, Keynes (pronounced as rains).

Don wrote:
> I learned a certain skill earlier than most people. I learned to type fast
> and accurately in the 6th grade at the age of 9. I don't remember the number
> of words per minute, but it was up at the secretarial level. I could type
> better then than I can now. I never was any good at football, basketball,
> tennis, or what have you. But I sure could type. Did wonders for my
> otherwise low self esteem.

Re: Who were Dean Witter and John Boggle?

"Elle" <> wrote
> no
> action can be completed in less than a second...

Teenage sex?

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Ed wrote:
> "Elle" <> wrote
> > no
> > action can be completed in less than a second...
>
> Teenage sex?


Hey Ed. Well it may last a second, but like the Energizer bunny, they
keep going and going...

Twenty plus years ago I got my first PC (a DEC Rainbow) and I asked my
boss if it would be okay to get some software to teach myself to touch
type. He was skeptical, but okayed the $99.00. Well I began by
hunting and pecking at 20-25 wpm. After practicing during my lunch
time on the software, repeating drill after drill, I learned to touch
type. Only thing is that my new speed was 20-25 wpm with my new skill.
But the neat thing is that I learned to multi-task. Yep, I can talk
to people and still type away by touch typing. So I'd say that it was
worth it.

Btw, you've got to kidding about EFH making money for people. Don't you
remember the old days when the gov't handed down 2,000 felony charges
against EFH for ripping off their customers. They made money all
right...for themselves. Of course even though the gov't got the
convictions, not one day in jail for any of those felonies was ever
served.

Mo

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"Maurice" <> wrote

> Btw, you've got to kidding about EFH making money for people. Don't you
> remember the old days when the gov't handed down 2,000 felony charges
> against EFH for ripping off their customers. They made money all
> right...for themselves. Of course even though the gov't got the
> convictions, not one day in jail for any of those felonies was ever
> served.
>
> Mo

Hi Mo,
Yes, I was kidding a little but all of the full service brokers make a ton
of money for themselves. I bet even the discount brokers are cleaning up.