How are the energy fund investors tonight?

Anyone feeling the pain like me?

How long will it take for energy funds to get back in the green;
any WAGs?

Re: How are the energy fund investors tonight?

hello. i have a portfoloi that is: 30% energy 35% inertnational and 35%
us equities. you can see i am a firm beliver in asset allocation.
today i sold the profits from one fund and tommorrow the profits from
another depending on how IYE does. i may also sell GCS a global
commodity closed end.
so, i am stll in the energy game but have made a fair share of money
and the chances are i still will. but if it takes a nose-dive, which i
do not see happening to any great degree, i will still make out fine.
now the question: what to buy since i only hold 5% cash. your
suggestions are appreciated. thanks, neutron

Re: How are the energy fund investors tonight?

<> wrote

> Anyone feeling the pain like me?
>
> How long will it take for energy funds to get back in the green;
> any WAGs?

Are you kidding?
You must have bought in yesterday?

Re: How are the energy fund investors tonight?

I've been in and out of oil year or two. Pick the money up at the door
on the way out, although before long I find myself back in. Houses of
(ch/t)urning for a profit, overall. Hat's off, but 30% is past my
comfort level, unless you sort of really like Russia's former communist
block countries. Haven't found an international index I want apart from
focused returns, either, except India. Been thinking of broadening
energy shifts to include natural gas.

neutron wrote:
> hello. i have a portfoloi that is: 30% energy 35% inertnational and 35%
> us equities. you can see i am a firm beliver in asset allocation.

Re: How are the energy fund investors tonight?

On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 04:25:30 -0400, "Ed" <> wrote:

>
><> wrote
>
>> Anyone feeling the pain like me?
>>
>> How long will it take for energy funds to get back in the green;
>> any WAGs?
>
>Are you kidding?
>You must have bought in yesterday?
>


Nope... been there for a while and picked my credit up at the counter
until this blow of oil well tames down I could not bear the pain to
see a near 60%gain turn to a 10% gain of my meager amount. I got out
with around 48% which is satisfactory because I am not greedy.

I calculate close to the cheast and whenf one pays the income taxes
when they get out then they really must exceed the amount of the tax
due on gain to really have a monetary gain...simple huh?

Re: How are the energy fund investors tonight?

<> wrote

> Nope... been there for a while and picked my credit up at the counter
> until this blow of oil well tames down I could not bear the pain to
> see a near 60%gain turn to a 10% gain of my meager amount. I got out
> with around 48% which is satisfactory because I am not greedy.
>
> I calculate close to the cheast and whenf one pays the income taxes
> when they get out then they really must exceed the amount of the tax
> due on gain to really have a monetary gain...simple huh?

Keep the sector bets in an IRA, even simpler.

Re: How are the energy fund investors tonight?

<> wrote in message
news:
> I calculate close to the cheast and whenf one pays the income taxes
> when they get out then they really must exceed the amount of the
> tax due on gain to really have a monetary gain...simple huh?

In the US at least, tax rates are well under 100%, so you always* have your
"monetary gain" after taxes. That is, the amount you are taxed on a gain is
less than the amount of the gain, so:
gross gain - taxes > 0

* There are some petty pathalogical corner cases, such as jumping from one
tax table income range to another, where adding $1 of income can result in
as much as $16 extra income tax. But these are small amounts, and your
taxes on the total gain (not just $1 of gain) is almost surely less than the
total gain.


--
Mark Freeland

Re: How are the energy fund investors tonight?

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:07:27 GMT, "Mark Freeland" <>
wrote:

><> wrote in message
>news:
>> I calculate close to the cheast and whenf one pays the income taxes
>> when they get out then they really must exceed the amount of the
>> tax due on gain to really have a monetary gain...simple huh?
>
>In the US at least, tax rates are well under 100%, so you always* have your
>"monetary gain" after taxes. That is, the amount you are taxed on a gain is
>less than the amount of the gain, so:
> gross gain - taxes > 0
>
>* There are some petty pathalogical corner cases, such as jumping from one
>tax table income range to another, where adding $1 of income can result in
>as much as $16 extra income tax. But these are small amounts, and your
>taxes on the total gain (not just $1 of gain) is almost surely less than the
>total gain.
>


Thanks for the reference. May need this data if I get some cash out.

We are alright for this year I think. Paid taxes as we before using
money to pay off a debt. Thank the Lord for our blessings.

Re: How are the energy fund investors tonight?

wrote:

> Anyone feeling the pain like me?

What pain?

RSNRX is still up 32% from January 1.
And it actually tripled since 2001.

Remember when gasoline prices were falling sharply in the 1990's,
everybody was buying big SUVs, and gas stations were actually giving
incentives to get people to buy more gas at their stations?

That's when I invested in RSNRX.


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