US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 02.11.2005 10:52:14 von Steve

You heard it here and here's the proof.




Check out these two links to two of my DOW JONES forecast snapshots.
(Copy n paste these into your browser address box).

There's no speculation. We are headed south. Bears will kick serious
bull rear starting very soon. DOW JONES in 2006 will be seriously lower
... and it gets much worse, the next long term bottom will be in the
2010 area if my charts are right. I use arcs and trend lines. I don't
even need trendlines as arcs alone are plenty enough. All you longterm
investors, be short. be wise be safe and best of all be wealthy. If you
don't short, then dump your stocks now. Last warning. Serious long term
bear rallies are in the making. The next leg down will be drastic and
steep believe it. You heard it here. Steve.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 02.11.2005 12:24:42 von David Wilkinson

Steve wrote:
> You heard it here and here's the proof.
>
>
>
>
> Check out these two links to two of my DOW JONES forecast snapshots.
> (Copy n paste these into your browser address box).
>
> There's no speculation. We are headed south. Bears will kick serious
> bull rear starting very soon. DOW JONES in 2006 will be seriously lower
> .. and it gets much worse, the next long term bottom will be in the
> 2010 area if my charts are right. I use arcs and trend lines. I don't
> even need trendlines as arcs alone are plenty enough. All you longterm
> investors, be short. be wise be safe and best of all be wealthy. If you
> don't short, then dump your stocks now. Last warning. Serious long term
> bear rallies are in the making. The next leg down will be drastic and
> steep believe it. You heard it here. Steve.
>
Steve who? And what are your credentials to advise others? Zilch I would
think if this is an example. Your crude drawing of a bow seems to have
no relation at all to the price history that precedes it. There are
dozens of TA indicators, trendlines, MAs etc. that could be attached to
the price history over different periods indicating any of buy, sell and
hold. Why use yours?

For instance you could use TA to say the Dow has been in a trading range
from about 10,000 to 10,800 since the beginning of 2004. It shows very
little sign of breaking out of this, either up or down. If it did then
TA lore would say it would move about the width of the range, about 800
points, either up to 11,600 or down to 9,200. Of course, a typical TA
prediction like this one that the price will either go up, down or stay
the same, is not a lot of use, but it is not positively harmful like
your suggestion to sell everything and go short, which could seriously
damage an investor's wealth if they were daft enough to follow it.

You will have to do a lot better than this!

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 02.11.2005 16:11:06 von Mike Stone

His e-mail address is '. Phil Hendrie is a
radio show where the host (Phil Hendrie) pretends to be a caller
and argues with himself in 2 different voices.

So whoever, the OP really is, he isn't being serious :)

That chart makes no sense!

-Mike

David Wilkinson <> wrote:
> Steve wrote:
>> You heard it here and here's the proof.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Check out these two links to two of my DOW JONES forecast snapshots.
>> (Copy n paste these into your browser address box).
>>
>> There's no speculation. We are headed south. Bears will kick serious
>> bull rear starting very soon. DOW JONES in 2006 will be seriously lower
>> .. and it gets much worse, the next long term bottom will be in the
>> 2010 area if my charts are right. I use arcs and trend lines. I don't
>> even need trendlines as arcs alone are plenty enough. All you longterm
>> investors, be short. be wise be safe and best of all be wealthy. If you
>> don't short, then dump your stocks now. Last warning. Serious long term
>> bear rallies are in the making. The next leg down will be drastic and
>> steep believe it. You heard it here. Steve.
>>
> Steve who? And what are your credentials to advise others? Zilch I would
> think if this is an example. Your crude drawing of a bow seems to have
> no relation at all to the price history that precedes it. There are
> dozens of TA indicators, trendlines, MAs etc. that could be attached to
> the price history over different periods indicating any of buy, sell and
> hold. Why use yours?
>
> For instance you could use TA to say the Dow has been in a trading range
> from about 10,000 to 10,800 since the beginning of 2004. It shows very
> little sign of breaking out of this, either up or down. If it did then
> TA lore would say it would move about the width of the range, about 800
> points, either up to 11,600 or down to 9,200. Of course, a typical TA
> prediction like this one that the price will either go up, down or stay
> the same, is not a lot of use, but it is not positively harmful like
> your suggestion to sell everything and go short, which could seriously
> damage an investor's wealth if they were daft enough to follow it.
>
> You will have to do a lot better than this!

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 02.11.2005 18:26:50 von PeterL

Steve wrote:
> You heard it here and here's the proof.
>
>
>
>
> Check out these two links to two of my DOW JONES forecast snapshots.
> (Copy n paste these into your browser address box).
>
> There's no speculation. We are headed south.

Your subject line says "in a serious bear market". Now you say "headed
south". So which is it? In one or headed towards one?

Bears will kick serious
> bull rear starting very soon. DOW JONES in 2006 will be seriously lower
> .. and it gets much worse, the next long term bottom will be in the
> 2010 area if my charts are right.

If? What if you are wrong? You don't have much confidence in your
charts do you?


I use arcs and trend lines. I don't
> even need trendlines as arcs alone are plenty enough. All you longterm
> investors, be short. be wise be safe and best of all be wealthy. If you
> don't short, then dump your stocks now. Last warning. Serious long term
> bear rallies are in the making. The next leg down will be drastic and
> steep believe it. You heard it here. Steve.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 01:01:37 von Steve

Bwahaha! Talk to me in 2006 and in 2010 if you are still here.

Steve who? Steve Me, Myself I. (I don't worship or follow others).

I use arcs for years with great success both in and out of stock
market.
I don't use conventional TA such as MAs. None work. I've made my own,
which are a lot better, but don't use them because arcs kick royal
butt.

"Heading South" and "Bearish" mean the same thing
... kinda reflects how knowledgably trade savvy the response has been so
far lol.
... no, I'm not phil, but thanks for the compliment. I trade.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 01:25:48 von Steve

You heard it here and here's the proof.






Check out these two links to two of my DOW JONES forecast snapshots.
(Copy n paste these into your browser address box).


There's no speculation. We are headed south. Bears will kick serious
bull rear starting very soon. DOW JONES in 2006 will be seriously lower

... and it gets much worse, the next long term bottom will be in the
2010 area if my charts are right. I use arcs and trend lines. I don't
even need trendlines as arcs alone are plenty enough. All you longterm
investors, be short. be wise be safe and best of all be wealthy. If you

don't short, then dump your stocks now. Last warning. Serious long term

bear rallies are in the making. The next leg down will be drastic and
steep believe it. You heard it here. Steve.

Sorry for this repost, i had previously doubled up my jpg links.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 01:28:17 von PeterL

Steve wrote:
> Bwahaha! Talk to me in 2006 and in 2010 if you are still here.
>
> Steve who? Steve Me, Myself I. (I don't worship or follow others).
>
> I use arcs for years with great success both in and out of stock
> market.
> I don't use conventional TA such as MAs. None work. I've made my own,
> which are a lot better, but don't use them because arcs kick royal
> butt.
>
> "Heading South" and "Bearish" mean the same thing

But not the same as "In a serious bear market." Heading towards one
and in one are two different things. Besides no one can tell what
market we are in until it's over.

> .. kinda reflects how knowledgably trade savvy the response has been so
> far lol.

LOL indeed.

> .. no, I'm not phil, but thanks for the compliment. I trade.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 02:00:36 von Steve

>Besides no one can tell what market we are in until it's over.

Some can .. speaking only for myself tho lol.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 02:02:30 von Steve

You heard it here and here's the proof.






Check out these two links to two of my DOW JONES forecast snapshots.
(Copy n paste these into your browser address box).


There's no speculation. We are headed south. Bears will kick serious
bull rear starting very soon. DOW JONES in 2006 will be seriously lower

... and it gets much worse, the next long term bottom will be in the
2010 area if my charts are right. I use arcs and trend lines. I don't
even need trendlines as arcs alone are plenty enough. All you longterm
investors, be short. be wise be safe and best of all be wealthy. If you

don't short, then dump your stocks now. Last warning. Serious long term

bear rallies are in the making. The next leg down will be drastic and
steep believe it. You heard it here. Steve.

I had to repost as i had repeated my first jpg link sorry.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 03:55:57 von Flasherly

Steve wrote:
> >Besides no one can tell what market we are in until it's over.
>
> Some can .. speaking only for myself tho lol.

Be nice to see a little business rationale to accompany the spectral
art of charting - why, based on present market conditions, a chart
hypothetically will continue to some forseen end. For convience, last
month's correctional damper portends only too many means at present to
not avoid making up for lost money. A practical aspect I have account
when speaking for myself over tracts I have begun cautiously to eke out
compensation. Are you saying it's not enough that I should simply
deserve more, say, than someone like you - whose resources are
seemingly deployed as counter to mine and to esculating productivity?
If so, you're on. I'll take a piece of you. What I suspect, though,
is you're no less inclined to employ backdoor hedge measures, as would
anyone, in any event to achieve the quickest liquity into the safest
means to maximize profits. If not, you forgo a major investment
principle and my understanding of the purpose for diversity.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 04:56:35 von Steve

Diversity and hedging is to give lightweights an excuse to invest ..lol
...

If you have to hedge or diversify, you're basically shouting to the
world: "I'm very unsure of the markets .. and myself." - not exactly a
good position to be in, but diversification is very good for
lightweights
nonetheless .. especially lightweights with tons of dough in the
markets. Hedging is just plain stupid. You're stepping on your own toes
to do what?

THE best insurance technique that VERY few EVER mention (even the
so-called gurus like Bob Brinker
fail to ever mention it). It is DCA dollar cost averaging. This puppy
actually DOES work. Utilizing it, you can even turn a profit in a down
market.

As far as business rationale goes ie fundamentals .. it doesn't work.
It's all bogus .. even for the honest reports .. even longterm. Humans
are irrational - especially in business matters it seems. I gave up pe
ratio et all years ago.

There are many market and ta/chart myths at work today .. and they only
seem to grow with time .. ie that somehow volume has anything to do
with stock prices. I think that's the biggest myth still thriving
today. Another is longterm investing. That one is another ridiculous
idea. And some say it's safer, which is even more ridiculous .. think
about it, what's easier to forecast .. five years from now or five
minutes from now?? How fast can your money deplete in five minutes ??
and in five minutes?? So even if you're a crappy shorterm investor, you
are much much safer per trade. Another myth is that exits are more
important than entires. This is backwards. Both are important, but when
you enter is much much more important .. to the point that when you
time your entries right, it almost doesn't matter when you exit!
Fact. There's a ton of other myths I keep tabs with but for now, that's
enough to chew on.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 05:13:35 von Steve

Nice addition to the blog, thanks.

Ok breaking it down:
diversity and hedging is to give lightweights an excuse to invest ..lol

...
If you have to hedge or diversify, you're basically shouting to the
world: "I'm very unsure of the markets .. and myself." - not exactly a
good position to be in, but diversification is a very good practice to
use
for longtermers who can't time the markets nonetheless .. especially
lightweights with tons of dough in the markets. Hedging is just plain
dumb. You're stepping on your own toes to do what?

THE best insurance technique that VERY few EVER mention (even the
so-called gurus like Bob Brinker fail to ever mention it) .. is DCA
(dollar
cost averaging). This puppy actually DOES work if you are a longtermer.

Utilizing it, you can even turn a profit in a down market .. provided
you
stock(s) recover .. even if just a little before you completely exit.

As far as business rationale goes ie fundamentals .. it doesn't work.
I'm not sure if it
ever did. It's a complete waste of time .. at best .. even longterm ..
even the honest
reports .. if there's such a critter .. and then how would you know the
accuracy of a
spread sheet without an ouija board anyways. Humans are irrational -
especially with
business matters it seems. I gave up pe ratio et all years ago.

There are many market and ta/chart myths as well .. at work today
... and they only seem to grow with time ..

ie that somehow volume has anything to do with stock prices. I think
that's the biggest
myth still thriving today. Another is longterm investing. That one is
another ridiculous
idea. And some say it's safer, which is even more ridiculous .. think
about it, what's
easier to forecast .. five years from now or five minutes from now??
How fast can your
money deplete in five minutes ?? now try five years or even a single
month?? So even
if you're a crappy shorterm investor, you are much much safer per
trade. Another myth
is that exits are more important than entires. This is backwards. Both
are important,
but when you enter is much much more important .. to the point that
when you time
your entries right, it almost doesn't matter when you exit! Fact.

There's a ton of other myths I keep tabs with but for now, that's
enough to chew on.

PS who's the worst radio talk host that preaches 'money talk' do you
know of.
I think Bob Brinker is, but they all stink so bad I'm not sure which
one is worse.
But then again, they are what ?? radio talk hosts.. what you expect
Warren Buffet?

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 05:25:59 von Steve

Nice addition to the blog, thanks.

Ok breaking it down:
diversity and hedging is to give lightweights an excuse to invest ..lol


If you have to hedge or diversify, you're basically shouting to the
world: "I'm very unsure of the markets .. and myself." - not exactly
a good position to be in, but diversification is a very good practice
to use for longtermers who can't time the markets nonetheless ..
especially lightweights with tons of dough in the markets. Hedging is
just plain dumb. You're stepping on your own toes to do what?

THE best insurance technique that VERY few EVER mention (even
the so-called gurus like Bob Brinker fail to ever mention it) .. is DCA

(dollar cost averaging). This puppy actually DOES work if you are a
longtermer. Utilizing it, you can even turn a profit in a down market
...
provided you stock(s) recover .. even if just a little before you
completely exit.

As far as business rationale goes ie fundamentals .. it doesn't work.
I'm not sure if it ever did. It's a complete waste of time .. at best
...
even longterm .. even the honest reports .. if there's such a critter
...
and then how would you know the accuracy of a spread sheet without
an ouija board anyways. Humans are irrational - especially with
business matters it seems. I gave up pe ratio et all years ago.

There are many market and ta/chart myths as well .. at work today
... and they only seem to grow with time ..

ie that somehow volume has anything to do with stock prices. I
think that's the biggest myth still thriving today. Another is longterm

investing. That one is another ridiculous idea. And some say it's
safer,
which is even more ridiculous .. think about it, what's easier to
forecast .. five years from now or five minutes from now?? How fast
can your money deplete in five minutes ?? now try five years or even
a single month?? So even if you're a crappy shorterm investor, you are
much much safer per trade. Another myth is that exits are more
important than entires. This is backwards. Both are important, but
when you enter is much much more important .. to the point that
when you time your entries right, it almost doesn't matter when you
exit! Fact.

There's a ton of other myths I keep tabs with but for now, that's
enough to chew on.

PS who's the worst radio talk host that preaches 'money talk' do
you know of. I think Bob Brinker is, but they all stink so bad I'm not
sure which one is worse. But then again, they are what ?? radio talk
hosts.. what you expect Warren Buffet?

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 05:36:14 von Steve

Nice addition to the blog, thanks.


Ok breaking it down:
diversity and hedging is to give lightweights an excuse to invest ..lol


If you have to hedge or diversify, you're basically shouting to the
world: "I'm very unsure of the markets .. and myself." - not exactly
a good position to be in, but diversification is a very good practice
to use for longtermers who can't time the markets nonetheless ..
especially lightweights with tons of dough in the markets. Hedging is
just plain dumb. You're stepping on your own toes to do what?

THE best insurance technique that VERY few EVER mention (even
the so-called gurus like Bob Brinker fail to ever mention it) .. is
DCA (dollar cost averaging). This puppy actually DOES work if you
are a longtermer. Utilizing it, you can even turn a profit in a down
market .. provided your stock(s) recover .. even if just a little
before you completely exit.

As far as business rationale goes ie fundamentals .. it doesn't work.
I'm not sure if it ever did. It's a complete waste of time .. at best
...
even longterm .. even the honest reports .. if there's such a critter
and then how would you know the accuracy of a spread sheet without
an ouija board anyways. Humans are irrational - especially with
business matters it seems. I gave up pe ratio et all years ago.

There are many market and ta/chart myths as well .. at work today
... and they only seem to grow with time:
ie that somehow volume has anything to do with stock prices. I
think that's the biggest myth still thriving today. Another is
longterm investing. That one is another ridiculous idea. And some
say it's safer, which is even more ridiculous .. think about it,
what's easier to forecast .. five years from now or five minutes
from now?? How fast can your money deplete in five minutes ??
now try five years or even a single month?? So even if you're a
crappy shorterm investor, you are much much safer per trade.
Another myth is that exits are more important than entires.
This is backwards. Both are important, but when you enter is
much much more important .. to the point that when you time
your entries right, it almost doesn't matter when you exit! Fact.

There's a ton of other myths I keep tabs with but for now, that's
enough to chew on.


PS who's the worst radio talk host that preaches 'money talk'
going? My pick is Bob Brinker, but they all stink so bad I'm not
sure which one is worse. But then again, they are what ?? radio talk
hosts.. what you expect Warren Buffet?

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 07:09:18 von Steve

I've included one last long range DOW JONES chart (click here):


The markets are definitely headed into stormy weather, hurricane
sized storms by 2011.

BTW funny thing, my charts say the bottom is 2011 because
traditionally, years ending in 1's have been very bad for America
dating
back over 100 years. Coincidence? Could be. The Mayen calendar also
speaks of 2011 .. as the end of the world. And so does the Bible in
fact.
I ain't no nostril-dumbass, nor an Art Bell fan, nor believe in
superstition
of any kind, just funny how all four of these FACTS align to point to
2011.

Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 07:35:33 von David Wilkinson

Steve wrote:
> I've included one last long range DOW JONES chart (click here):
>
>
> The markets are definitely headed into stormy weather, hurricane
> sized storms by 2011.
>
> BTW funny thing, my charts say the bottom is 2011 because
> traditionally, years ending in 1's have been very bad for America
> dating
> back over 100 years. Coincidence? Could be. The Mayen calendar also
> speaks of 2011 .. as the end of the world. And so does the Bible in
> fact.
> I ain't no nostril-dumbass, nor an Art Bell fan, nor believe in
> superstition
> of any kind, just funny how all four of these FACTS align to point to
> 2011.
>
> Steve
>
What a load of rubbish! No one can accurately predict whether the market
will go up or down tomorrow, or next week or next month, let alone by
2011. The good thing about 2001 is that no one will remember your
prediction or who you are by then, or even by next week. And of course
"Steve" is hardly a definitive name, unless you think you are the only
one called that!

Instead of filling the NG with junk why don't you predict something that
can be tested. What will the Dow be at Friday close, with confidence limits?

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 08:13:14 von Steve

>What a load of rubbish! No one can accurately predict whether the market
>will go up or down tomorrow, or next week or next month, let alone by
>2011.

BWAHAHA!! Talk about someone a load of rubbish! In the first
place, unless your middle name is GOD, it is IMPOSSIBLE to
make such a bogus claim ..which only shows who is not
thinking too far. Maybe it's late where you are. Goes to show
you don't know anyone skilled at charts.

If you said I CAN'T forecast anything, then you may have a point.

But it can be done my friend with proper tools. I've been accurately
forecasting stocks for myself for years .. including the last four
major
earthquakes. Alaska will be shaking bigtime by 2015. The exacte day
and time will be much much more precise as the strike date nears.
I've been saying that the markets would be slightly bearish for the
last
four years. Many doubted me, but that's alright, no one's perfect.
That was the past, we are have a different situation shaping up.
by 2007 expect the markets to be much more bearish, prolly
bouncing a few more times before it really begins to happen tho.

But bottom line, I don't have the time nor interest to prove my
work to skeptics, just interested what other's think in different
places.

>The good thing about 2001 is that no one will remember your
>prediction or who you are by then, or even by next week. And of course
>"Steve" is hardly a definitive name, unless you think you are the only
>one called that!

I can't understand this rumbling diarhea.

The name Steve is satisfactory for me .. at least here. But why does
this matter? All you have to bitch about? I don't have an interest to
make a name out of my name .. at least here.

>Instead of filling the NG with junk why don't you predict something that
>can be tested. What will the Dow be at Friday close, with confidence limits?

Time will be the ultimate test for those who don't know my work or see
my accomplishments including forecasts of flooding in the south east.

I am collecting and building more chart data such as airline disasters
etc and will construct a team to help out soon. You absolutely can
chart almost any events provided you have enough accurate data AND
have the right forecast tools and experience with them. One is arcs.
Learn them and get rich.

Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 08:21:04 von Steve

>Instead of filling the NG with junk why don't you predict something that
>can be tested. What will the Dow be at Friday close, with confidence limits?

BWAHAHAHA.. What double speak! Hey have you forgot alread!? You just
finished saying
forecasting cannot be done!! LOL Fence sitting backpeddlers make me
laugh.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 08:23:37 von Steve

>What a load of rubbish! No one can accurately predict whether the market
>will go up or down tomorrow, or next week or next month, let alone
> by 2011.

BWAHAHA!! Talk about someone who vomits a load of rubbish!
In the first place, unless your middle name is GOD, it is
IMPOSSIBLE to make such a bogus claim ..which only shows
who is not thinking too far. Maybe it's late where you are. Goes
to show you don't know anyone skilled at charting.

If you said I CAN'T forecast anything, then you may have a point.

But it can be done my friend with proper tools. I've been accurately
forecasting stocks for myself for years .. including the last four
major
earthquakes. Alaska will be shaking bigtime by 2015. The exacte day
and time will be much much more precise as the strike date nears.
I've been saying that the markets would be slightly bearish for the
last
four years. Many doubted me, but that's alright, no one's perfect.
That was the past, we are have a different situation shaping up.
by 2007 expect the markets to be much more bearish, prolly
bouncing a few more times before it really begins to happen tho.

But bottom line, I don't have the time nor interest to prove my
work to skeptics, just interested what other's think in different
places.

>The good thing about 2001 is that no one will remember your
>prediction or who you are by then, or even by next week. And of course
>"Steve" is hardly a definitive name, unless you think you are the only
>one called that!

I can't understand this rumbling diarhea.

The name Steve is satisfactory for me .. at least here. But why does
this matter? All you have to bitch about? I don't have an interest to
make a name out of my name .. at least here.

>Instead of filling the NG with junk why don't you predict something that
>can be tested. What will the Dow be at Friday close, with confidence limits?

Time will be the ultimate test for those who don't know my work or see
my accomplishments including forecasts of flooding in the south east.

I am collecting and building more chart data such as airline disasters
etc and will construct a team to help out soon. You absolutely can
chart almost any events provided you have enough accurate data AND
have the right forecast tools and experience with them. One is arcs.
Learn them and get rich.

Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 08:24:37 von Steve

>Instead of filling the NG with junk why don't you predict something that
>can be tested. What will the Dow be at Friday close, with confidence limits?


BWAHAHAHA.. What double speak! Hey have you forgot already!?
You just finished saying forecasting cannot be done!! LOL Fence sitting

backpeddlers make me laugh.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 08:58:27 von Steve

Instead of forecasting stocks a few daze out, which is not only
meaningless for most as daytrading is a dead fad nowadays
and daytrading is currently not what i've been busy with lately,
but instead of short term forecasts, how about state lotteries?
That's where big money can be made. I've been dabbling with
them lately so instead I'll post a few lotto forecasts here in
the near future (a week or three) if I remember. Someone
remind me then. I'm almost done policing up an absolutely
stunningly robust program that is able to forecast the very
next bar (a very difficult endeavor believe me).

Thanks,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 09:05:06 von Steve

>What a load of rubbish! No one can accurately predict whether the market
>will go up or down tomorrow, or next week or next month, let alone by
>2011.

BWAHAHA!! Talk about someone who knows how to write a load
of rubbish! In the first place, unless your middle name is GOD,
it is IMPOSSIBLE to know what others do with their time, let
alone make such a bogus claim ..which only shows who is not
thinking too far. Maybe it's late where you are. Goes to show
you don't know anyone skilled at charts.

If you said I CAN'T forecast anything, then you may have a point.

But it can be done my friend with proper tools. I've been accurately
forecasting stocks for myself for years .. including the last four
major
earthquakes. Alaska will be shaking bigtime by 2015. The exacte day
and time will be much much more precise as the strike date nears.
I've been saying that the markets would be slightly bearish for the
last
four years. Many doubted me, but that's alright, no one's perfect.
That was the past, we are have a different situation shaping up.
by 2007 expect the markets to be much more bearish, prolly
bouncing a few more times before it really begins to happen tho.

But bottom line, I don't have the time nor interest to prove my
work to skeptics, just interested what other's think in different
places.

>The good thing about 2001 is that no one will remember your
>prediction or who you are by then, or even by next week. And of course
>"Steve" is hardly a definitive name, unless you think you are the only
>one called that!

I can't understand this rumbling diarhea.

The name Steve is satisfactory for me .. at least here. But why does
this matter? All you have to bitch about? I don't have an interest to
make a name out of my name .. at least here.

>Instead of filling the NG with junk why don't you predict something that
>can be tested. What will the Dow be at Friday close, with confidence limits?

Time will be the ultimate test for those who don't know my work or see
my accomplishments including forecasts of flooding in the south east.

I am collecting and building more chart data such as airline disasters
etc and will construct a team to help out soon. You absolutely can
chart almost any events provided you have enough accurate data AND
have the right forecast tools and experience with them. One is arcs.
Learn them and get rich.

Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 10:53:42 von happy-guy

We use hedging all the time. Many good performing funds are closed to new
investors, have early redemption fees, and other limitations that make
selling them not an option.

So, a percentage of our money is kept at Profunds, or a brokerage where
Profunds is available. When we expect a downturn in the market, that portion
of the money is moved from bull funds to one or two of the bear funds that
are factored to move twice the market. That way, a position in BRSIX
(Bridgewater ultra small cap) can be maintained without jeopardy, and the
account can be market neutral.

You may now continue with your ignorant conversation... sorry for the
intelligent interruption..

Happy Guy

Speaking of ultra small caps.

am 03.11.2005 11:16:03 von Ed

There are two ETF's that do micro-caps.
PowerShares Zacks Micro Cap, PZI, and First Trust DJ Select Micro Cap Index,
FDM.








If you consider adding one of these to your portfolio in anticipation of a
Santa rally watch your spreads. FDM looks like it may track the better
(historic) index but the spreads for PZI are tighter.



"happy-guy" <> wrote

> That way, a position in BRSIX (Bridgewater ultra small cap) can be
> maintained without jeopardy, and the account can be market neutral.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 11:38:55 von David Wilkinson

happy-guy wrote:
> We use hedging all the time. Many good performing funds are closed to new
> investors, have early redemption fees, and other limitations that make
> selling them not an option.
>
> So, a percentage of our money is kept at Profunds, or a brokerage where
> Profunds is available. When we expect a downturn in the market, that portion
> of the money is moved from bull funds to one or two of the bear funds that
> are factored to move twice the market. That way, a position in BRSIX
> (Bridgewater ultra small cap) can be maintained without jeopardy, and the
> account can be market neutral.
>
> You may now continue with your ignorant conversation... sorry for the
> intelligent interruption..
>
> Happy Guy
>
>
I think he is turning out to be a crank as he now claims to be able to
predict earthquakes and even the lottery as well as the stock market 6
years ahead. It's either a bad joke, as someone suggested, or he has a
serious problem.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 12:15:17 von Steve

Happy Guy,

That's a bunch of nonsense,
Hedging simply means you lose money slower than without
hedging. Nothing more. But apparently that myth will live on here
too.

Steve

Re: Speaking of ultra small caps.

am 03.11.2005 12:19:40 von Steve

Ed,

Spreads aka hedging simply doesn't work. Period end.
And I've looked at all kinds of scenarios.
As I've said, that's a myth .. one of I'm serious HUNDREDS.

Best wishes in your trials ahead,

Steve

If I could accomplish just one thing here, and only one,
it would be "think for yourself," close all the books,
and open the charts.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 12:25:52 von Steve

>I think he is turning out to be a crank as he now claims to be able to
>predict earthquakes and even the lottery as well as the stock market 6
>years ahead. It's either a bad joke, as someone suggested, or he has a
>serious problem.

Yeah, my bank account is a crank too. I've been forecasting equakes ..
lottos, rainfall sports scores, roulette number for over a decade now
... all
no different than forecasting stocks as a matter of fact. Most if not
all random events have surprisingly similar characterists if you know
what to look for. I've already gave a few of my secrets away in the
JPGs. (scroll up).

The TA I use works, I can prove it over and over .. and I will very
seriously
try to show a few short term stock forecasts right here by Xmas 05.

Steve

PS don't hold your breath for a Santa Rally in 05.

Re: Speaking of ultra small caps.

am 03.11.2005 12:54:31 von Ed

Steve, I have no interest in anything you've said and that won't change.
Good luck to you.



"Steve" <> wrote in message
news:
> Ed,
>
> Spreads aka hedging simply doesn't work. Period end.
> And I've looked at all kinds of scenarios.
> As I've said, that's a myth .. one of I'm serious HUNDREDS.
>
> Best wishes in your trials ahead,
>
> Steve
>
> If I could accomplish just one thing here, and only one,
> it would be "think for yourself," close all the books,
> and open the charts.
>

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 12:56:01 von Ed

"Steve" <> wrote

> >I think he is turning out to be a crank as he now claims to be able to
>>predict earthquakes and even the lottery as well as the stock market 6
>>years ahead. It's either a bad joke, as someone suggested, or he has a
>>serious problem.
>
> I've been forecasting equakes ..
> lottos, rainfall sports scores, roulette number for over a decade now

Me to, probably with the same results.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 13:37:42 von Steve

OK i shouldn't do this but I'm gonna anyway.
Here's my pick daily 3 pick (midday draw) for California's Lotto on Nov
3, 2005 (today)

583

runners up:
digit: THREE TWO ONE
9084 6213 450

Good luck,
Steve

PS
DISCLAIMER:
The strategy one must use to forecast next bar events, ie sports games,

lottos, etc is miles different than the way you approach forecasting
several
bars into the future ie stocks, quakes, a string of roulette numbers
etc.
It is 1000% more difficult too .. up until one is able to come up with
a
robust system. So like I've said my ability at picking lotto numbers is

way different and more difficult than forecasting the general area a
stock's
price will be. Also as I've said, I'm just 'dabbling' with lottos at
this point
and testing out my latest (certainly not my last) strategy. Capiche?
If I fall flat on my face with this pick, I'll still post the actual
number drawn
here after the draw results are posted (tentative). I'm confident ..
yeah right.


PPS
I've quickly looked at some intraday charts and the Nasdaq will be
lower
on Thursday intraday at least.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 16:07:23 von Flasherly

Steve wrote:
> Nice addition to the blog, thanks.

You're welcome, if only I understood what is [to?] blog; no doubt it's
an illusively simple concept. To invest, let's start with the subject
and momentarily ignore any misguided modifiers diversity or hedging
grammatically denote. . . .I wasn't using them, per se, in faithful
intent of future, warrant and convertible contracts. As you appear to
know well, successful economics is an empirical application over
marketable ambiguities profits assume. What you do not appear to know
well is that the successful economist is as well the politician Sartre
may have proud to conceive: In need, he will be equal to disavow
Nostradame as Nosfuratu. Fundamentals, you do well to point out are
inclusive of uncertainties, nevertheless, they are precisely what is
bearing weightily upon the current market: the FED is ushering in a
chairman and new Ivory Tower economist. His methodology will not in the
immediate sense effectively be to supplant a status quo, which in turn
has favorably impacted indices of recent business dynamics. As for
future milestones he wishes to construct - I'll plead mea non-culpa.
Myths may well be suitable iconoclasts with no less a logical bases to
deride hedging as DCA. Accumulative, DCA principled money obviously is
a greater factor profits sum in amounts; wherein such time, I would
tend not to agree, and question whether it is apropos to specific times
that are best not routinely deployed. Hedging is, as you say, an
uncertainty principle I'd qualify certificates of deposit I've
purchased. It's the taste of chrome on a trailer hitch, pain, plain
and simple, spells in profits losses I incured that forced me to
'hedge' myself in part from equities. As short of position as I'm
given to try and gain a greater significance symbols, financial means
have to impart by words, concrete or abstractly, as past portends to
present, ever while disinterestedly perusing a purposeful merchantile
mindset.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 16:27:43 von happy-guy

Boy, you guys worry too much..! If the price is going up, you own it. If
it is going down, you go to cash or a bear fund.

And that, is ALL you can control....... all this thinking just mires you
down and you wallow around in useless information.

While you continue this verbosity, I'm going down to the shoreline and have
a lobster roll and a beer, not necessarily in that order....

Happy Guy

-
"Flasherly" <> wrote in message
news:
> Steve wrote:
>> Nice addition to the blog, thanks.
>
> You're welcome, if only I understood what is [to?] blog; no doubt it's
> an illusively simple concept. To invest, let's start with the subject
> and momentarily ignore any misguided modifiers diversity or hedging
> grammatically denote. . . .I wasn't using them, per se, in faithful
> intent of future, warrant and convertible contracts. As you appear to
> know well, successful economics is an empirical application over
> marketable ambiguities profits assume. What you do not appear to know
> well is that the successful economist is as well the politician Sartre
> may have proud to conceive: In need, he will be equal to disavow
> Nostradame as Nosfuratu. Fundamentals, you do well to point out are
> inclusive of uncertainties, nevertheless, they are precisely what is
> bearing weightily upon the current market: the FED is ushering in a
> chairman and new Ivory Tower economist. His methodology will not in the
> immediate sense effectively be to supplant a status quo, which in turn
> has favorably impacted indices of recent business dynamics. As for
> future milestones he wishes to construct - I'll plead mea non-culpa.
> Myths may well be suitable iconoclasts with no less a logical bases to
> deride hedging as DCA. Accumulative, DCA principled money obviously is
> a greater factor profits sum in amounts; wherein such time, I would
> tend not to agree, and question whether it is apropos to specific times
> that are best not routinely deployed. Hedging is, as you say, an
> uncertainty principle I'd qualify certificates of deposit I've
> purchased. It's the taste of chrome on a trailer hitch, pain, plain
> and simple, spells in profits losses I incured that forced me to
> 'hedge' myself in part from equities. As short of position as I'm
> given to try and gain a greater significance symbols, financial means
> have to impart by words, concrete or abstractly, as past portends to
> present, ever while disinterestedly perusing a purposeful merchantile
> mindset.
>

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 16:47:15 von Flasherly

happy-guy wrote:
> Boy, you guys worry too much..! If the price is going up, you own it. If
> it is going down, you go to cash or a bear fund.
>
> And that, is ALL you can control....... all this thinking just mires you
> down and you wallow around in useless information.
>
> While you continue this verbosity, I'm going down to the shoreline and have
> a lobster roll and a beer, not necessarily in that order....

I did control the cash-in aspect, there was no repeat crash performance
(been there, done that), though I didn't control the jellyroll move
into a contra position. Too sweet an icing for this cake. It's
probably a hereditary thing, the worrying. I discovered it when I was
too young to be staying up late all night reading and ran into Henry
Miller or Joyce. Must be in Maine - in Florida it's a beach where any
lobster I netted was small fry.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 17:40:40 von Steve

Looking once again at intraday charts, I expect the nasdaq to top off
thursday
and move down friday and monday, perhaps tuesday or further. After this
i-day
top and after the price forms a substantial reverse (down) arc pattern
i will
overlay an arc and begin to chart bearishly to find the next
intraday-week bottom.
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 17:43:14 von Steve

>I have no interest in anything you've said and that won't change.
>Good luck to you.
Ok, stay blind and ill-informed.
It's your life anyway.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 18:13:08 von Don Zimmerman

"Steve" <> wrote in message
news:
accurately
> forecasting stocks for myself for years .. including the last four
> major
> earthquakes. Alaska will be shaking bigtime by 2015. The exacte day
> and time will be much much more precise as the strike date nears.
> I've been saying that the markets would be slightly bearish for the
> last
> four years. Many doubted me, but that's alright, no one's perfect.
> That was the past, we are have a different situation shaping up.
> by 2007 expect the markets to be much more bearish, prolly

Can you predict the deaths of individuals? You could hire yourself out to an
insurance company as a consultant. They could run all the applications by
you to screen out the undesirable and unprofitable ones where something bad
is about to happen.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 18:41:33 von happy-guy

Darn, another filter for dumb messages... hope my machine is up to the
task..

Happy Guy
-
"Don" <> wrote in message
news:Eyraf.74551$
> "Steve" <> wrote in message
> news:
> accurately
>> forecasting stocks for myself for years .. including the last four
>> major
>> earthquakes. Alaska will be shaking bigtime by 2015. The exacte day
>> and time will be much much more precise as the strike date nears.
>> I've been saying that the markets would be slightly bearish for the
>> last
>> four years. Many doubted me, but that's alright, no one's perfect.
>> That was the past, we are have a different situation shaping up.
>> by 2007 expect the markets to be much more bearish, prolly
>
> Can you predict the deaths of individuals? You could hire yourself out to
> an insurance company as a consultant. They could run all the applications
> by you to screen out the undesirable and unprofitable ones where something
> bad is about to happen.
>

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 18:42:51 von Steve

>Boy, you guys worry too much..! If the price is going up, you own it. If
>it is going down, you go to cash or a bear fund.

ahhhhh if it were only that easy .. spoken like a true novice

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 18:51:36 von Steve

>Can you predict the deaths of individuals? You could hire yourself out to an
>insurance company as a consultant. They could run all the applications by
>you to screen out the undesirable and unprofitable ones where something bad
>is about to happen.

Funny you bring this up.
One can't forecast an individual's lifespan aka death with charts ..
unless of course you were able to chart a sh*t load of deaths from
previous lifetimes .. then you might have a chance. BUT I also
dabble in astrology on the side and I can ballpark a given
person's lifespan given an accurate birthdate. I'm decently
accurate at that too.

I'm currently preoccupied with lottos and quakes coz you can
make a ton of dough with one and save a pile of lives with the other
... the potentials are there at least.

Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 19:51:15 von Ed

"Steve" <> wrote

> >Boy, you guys worry too much..! If the price is going up, you own it.
> >If
>>it is going down, you go to cash or a bear fund.
>
> ahhhhh if it were only that easy .. spoken like a true novice

You claim it is that easy, does that make you a true novice too?

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 20:00:23 von Brucie

"Steve" <> wrote

> I'm currently preoccupied with lottos and quakes coz you can
> make a ton of dough with one and save a pile of lives with the other
> .. the potentials are there at least.
>
> Steve

You must be a trillionaire by now, knowing what you know in advance like
that.
I can't wait to check you lotto number.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 22:15:35 von Don Zimmerman

"Steve" <> wrote in message
news:

> One can't forecast an individual's lifespan aka death with charts ..
> unless of course you were able to chart a sh*t load of deaths from
> previous lifetimes .. then you might have a chance. BUT I also
> dabble in astrology on the side and I can ballpark a given
> person's lifespan given an accurate birthdate. I'm decently
> accurate at that too.
>
> I'm currently preoccupied with lottos and quakes coz you can
> make a ton of dough with one and save a pile of lives with the other
> .. the potentials are there at least.

If you can predict when wars will end, or better yet, when they will begin,
your services will be in demand by governments. And then, if you could
screen people at airports, that might do away with the need for those
detector devices and save money. Of course, to cover all the airports you
would have to train a cadre of assistants. And the beleaguered FEMA would
love you if you could pin point where the next hurricane will hit.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 23:01:07 von David Wilkinson

Don wrote:
> "Steve" <> wrote in message
> news:
>
>
>>One can't forecast an individual's lifespan aka death with charts ..
>>unless of course you were able to chart a sh*t load of deaths from
>>previous lifetimes .. then you might have a chance. BUT I also
>>dabble in astrology on the side and I can ballpark a given
>>person's lifespan given an accurate birthdate. I'm decently
>>accurate at that too.
>>
>>I'm currently preoccupied with lottos and quakes coz you can
>>make a ton of dough with one and save a pile of lives with the other
>>.. the potentials are there at least.
>
>
> If you can predict when wars will end, or better yet, when they will begin,
> your services will be in demand by governments. And then, if you could
> screen people at airports, that might do away with the need for those
> detector devices and save money. Of course, to cover all the airports you
> would have to train a cadre of assistants. And the beleaguered FEMA would
> love you if you could pin point where the next hurricane will hit.
>
>
The man says he can predict random events, like lottery numbers. Since
they are random he cannot predict them, so he is wrong in this and
probably everything else. The best seismologists in the world with all
their instruments, theories and super-computers cannot predict when
earthquakes will happen. Why should we believe "Steve" can do it. The
man is a charlatan.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 23:09:29 von Steve

>If you can predict when wars will end, or better yet, when they will begin,
>your services will be in demand by governments.

No can do. First you need years of ACCURATE war data, cost in lives
and money. Once you have this, you could however forecast areas of
heavy waring .. like I do with rainfall data.

>And then, if you could
>screen people at airports, that might do away with the need for those
>detector devices and save money. Of course, to cover all the airports you
>would have to train a cadre of assistants.
Not sure what you mean.

And the beleaguered FEMA would
>love you if you could pin point where the next hurricane will hit.

That one can be done and I do it via rainfall data. I have much more
good rainfall data to work with than hurricane data at the moment.
I said last year that this year would see an increase in rainfall
Western Florida, boy did the cows come home with that one ..
especially for states West of Florida. But Florida too recieved more
rainfall than average.

I'm only as accurate as the amount of time I spend with the data, so
it's easy to be wrong and takes time to be right. This is why I limit
forecasts that I rush into .. like with intraday stocks for instance
which
I was off today. Plus I'm currently lacking with intraday data software

bigtime.

If anyone knows of a free online intraday charts better than
BigCharts.com, I need them to reach back more than 10 days
with hour and 15 minute ascii data, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 23:16:31 von Steve

>You claim it is that easy, does that make you a true novice too?
No I didn't say that.

I claim once you have the tools, know what to look for, and tons of
experience
THEN it's easy. Up to that point, it is not a cake walk .. especially
if you follow
the crowd and use b.s. indicators to time markets ie volume, obv, et
all.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 23:26:50 von Steve

>The man says he can predict random events, like lottery numbers. Since
>they are random he cannot predict them, so he is wrong in this and
>probably everything else. The best seismologists in the world with all
>their instruments, theories and super-computers cannot predict when
>earthquakes will happen. Why should we believe "Steve" can do it. The
>man is a charlatan.

First, the term is called forecasting, u know, like weathermen do.
I broke my last crystal ball years ago lol.

As I said random has characteristics can be exploited to the point
where it's a cakewalk again if you have the know what to look for,
plug in robust tools, know what you are doing and have gobs of
backtesting experience.

Guess you don't know about the latest seismic tools for forecasting
earthquakes then, they are impressive. In fact, NOVA (PBS) did an
entire program on it.. go to their site, they still might
have info on it. My method is completely different, but they too use
data to forecast, just waaay different approach.

Charlatan, get a mirror out.
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 03.11.2005 23:50:15 von Ed

Your last 3 posts have you adding disclaimers.
I'm waiting on your lotto pick. The website doesn't update until the morning
after.

The man says it's 583. We'll see.






"Steve" <> wrote in message
news:
> >You claim it is that easy, does that make you a true novice too?
> No I didn't say that.
>
> I claim once you have the tools, know what to look for, and tons of
> experience
> THEN it's easy. Up to that point, it is not a cake walk .. especially
> if you follow
> the crowd and use b.s. indicators to time markets ie volume, obv, et
> all.
>

Surprise!

am 03.11.2005 23:53:48 von Ed

The number was put up for mid-day 11/3.

It's 076.
Your pick was 583, not even one digit.
U da man!

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 00:02:37 von Steve

>You must be a trillionaire by now, knowing what you know in advance like
>that.

No, but that's a lofty goal.
>I can't wait to check you lotto number.

I think the number was 760, but does anyone read accurately in here.
You need to re-read what I said about forecasting lotto nums and what
stage I'm at with them.

Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 00:07:31 von Gary C

"Steve" <> wrote in message
news:

>
> I think the number was 760,

Dyslectic?

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 00:35:06 von Ed

"Steve" <> wrote

> >You must be a trillionaire by now, knowing what you know in advance like
>>that.
>
> No, but that's a lofty goal.
>>I can't wait to check you lotto number.
>
> I think the number was 760, but does anyone read accurately in here.

The CA lottery says it was 076, 760 is just as close as you were. Doesn't
matter anyway.
You have proven your worth.

> You need to re-read what I said about forecasting lotto nums and what
> stage I'm at with them.

More disclaimers.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 01:45:38 von Steve

Ok

Here's A NASDAQ BULL TIME ARC drawn as best as possible.
I put a little more effort into it this time.


(copy n paste into browser)

This is the best i can do with BigCharts.com charts since their
intra-day data length in days back maxes out at 10. I need more.
Also as you can see I need more room on top for the arc to
complete.

The next INTRADAY-WEEK nasdaq top will hit sometime on friday
according to this arc .. not today as I previously estimated. This
nasdaq top will align at the same time line. You can finish the arc and

that point in time will be the $ top. Comprende.

So there you go, I shouldn't give away my secrets so easy.
Just one to get you going.

Good luck, Steve.

PS If you want help in the future, I'd be willing to help you out.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 01:48:38 von Steve

>You have proven your worth.

... talk about rampant dislexia here lol. Anyone ever read the
disclaimer I posted.
Guess not, but I expected as much.

I'll get better with time .. like good wine.
So no worries.
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 02:00:03 von PeterL

Steve wrote:
> Nice addition to the blog, thanks.
>
>
> Ok breaking it down:
> diversity and hedging is to give lightweights an excuse to invest ..lol
>

The internet is full of people who tell you that they are good at
investing. These people don't usually last for more than a couple of
months. Anyone can be anyone on the web.

>
> If you have to hedge or diversify, you're basically shouting to the
> world: "I'm very unsure of the markets .. and myself." - not exactly
> a good position to be in, but diversification is a very good practice
> to use for longtermers who can't time the markets nonetheless ..
> especially lightweights with tons of dough in the markets. Hedging is
> just plain dumb. You're stepping on your own toes to do what?
>
> THE best insurance technique that VERY few EVER mention (even
> the so-called gurus like Bob Brinker fail to ever mention it) .. is
> DCA (dollar cost averaging). This puppy actually DOES work if you
> are a longtermer. Utilizing it, you can even turn a profit in a down
> market .. provided your stock(s) recover .. even if just a little
> before you completely exit.
>

Yeah talk about shouting to the world that you have no clue. DCA works
for people who gets a paycheck every month and don't have the knowledge
to research the market.

> As far as business rationale goes ie fundamentals .. it doesn't work.
> I'm not sure if it ever did. It's a complete waste of time .. at best
> ..
> even longterm .. even the honest reports .. if there's such a critter
> and then how would you know the accuracy of a spread sheet without
> an ouija board anyways. Humans are irrational - especially with
> business matters it seems. I gave up pe ratio et all years ago.
>

If you think PE ratio is fundamental research, you have a long way to
go to learn about the market.


> There are many market and ta/chart myths as well .. at work today
> .. and they only seem to grow with time:
> ie that somehow volume has anything to do with stock prices. I
> think that's the biggest myth still thriving today. Another is
> longterm investing. That one is another ridiculous idea. And some
> say it's safer, which is even more ridiculous .. think about it,
> what's easier to forecast .. five years from now or five minutes
> from now?? How fast can your money deplete in five minutes ??
> now try five years or even a single month?? So even if you're a
> crappy shorterm investor, you are much much safer per trade.
> Another myth is that exits are more important than entires.
> This is backwards. Both are important, but when you enter is
> much much more important .. to the point that when you time
> your entries right, it almost doesn't matter when you exit! Fact.
>

You can get that from any "For Dummies" book.

> There's a ton of other myths I keep tabs with but for now, that's
> enough to chew on.
>
>
> PS who's the worst radio talk host that preaches 'money talk'
> going? My pick is Bob Brinker, but they all stink so bad I'm not
> sure which one is worse. But then again, they are what ?? radio talk
> hosts.. what you expect Warren Buffet?

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 02:00:47 von Steve

I should add this is a TIME arc, not a PRICE arc, so while it
reveals tops and bottoms in terms of TIME, it does NOT in
terms of PRICE. Price arcs are needed for that. I can't give
away all my secrets for free as I've worked too long and
hard to get to this point.

You will see the price top out tomorrow.
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 02:02:20 von Steve

I should add this is a TIME arc, not a PRICE arc, so while it
reveals tops and bottoms in terms of TIME, it does NOT in
terms of PRICE. Price arcs are needed for that. I can't give
away all my secrets for free as I've worked too long and
hard to get to this point.


If this arc is drawn right, you will see the price top out tomorrow.
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 02:08:56 von Steve

>You can get that from any "For Dummies" book.

Peter,

You couldn't possibly be more wrong by that ridiculous statement.
You cannot find stuff I say here aka that volume is meaningless
and about arc ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET coz books, tapes,
seminars, talk shows are given by people who write books, give
seminars, et all .. not by serious successful traders. At least I
don't charge for my advice, but then I don't have to.
People will still try to knock you down for doing so though ..
funny world we live in. Interesting how dumb people can get.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 02:14:05 von Steve

>If you think PE ratio is fundamental research, you have a long way to
>go to learn about the market.

PE is only a part of it, but a part of it no less. If you argue with
that
you need to pull out a damn business thesaurus before you
spew lies.

>Yeah talk about shouting to the world that you have no clue. DCA works
>for people who gets a paycheck every month and don't have the knowledge
>to research the market.

What this jibberish means is beyond me.
HELP! lol

Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 02:20:43 von PeterL

Steve wrote:
> >You can get that from any "For Dummies" book.
>
> Peter,
>
> You couldn't possibly be more wrong by that ridiculous statement.
> You cannot find stuff I say here aka that volume is meaningless
> and about arc ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET coz books, tapes,
> seminars, talk shows are given by people who write books, give
> seminars, et all .. not by serious successful traders.

You don't get what I mean. Your "advice" is exactly the kind anyone
can write about in a dummies type of book. E.g. simple statements for
those who are uninitiated.

At least I
> don't charge for my advice,

And your advice is worth exactly that much.


but then I don't have to.
> People will still try to knock you down for doing so though ..
> funny world we live in. Interesting how dumb people can get.

Look in the mirror when you say that?

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 02:22:07 von Steve

>You can get that from any "For Dummies" book.


Peter,

You couldn't possibly be more wrong by that ridiculous statement.
You cannot find stuff I say here aka that volume is meaningless
and about arc ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET coz books, tapes,
seminars, talk shows are given by people who write books, give
seminars, et all .. not by serious successful traders. At least I
don't charge for my advice, but then I don't have to.

Funny how there are people out there that will do everything
they can do to try to knock someone down for helping them
Funny world we live in. Certainly interesting how irrationally
retarded people can get. With this in mind, it's easy to
understand how people could kill someone like Jesus Christ.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 04:35:24 von Don Zimmerman

"David Wilkinson" <> wrote in message
news:dke1ar$b9e$

> The man says he can predict random events, like lottery numbers. Since
> they are random he cannot predict them, so he is wrong in this and
> probably everything else. The best seismologists in the world with all
> their instruments, theories and super-computers cannot predict when
> earthquakes will happen. Why should we believe "Steve" can do it. The man
> is a charlatan.

If he could in fact predict lottery numbers, he should be arrested and
charged with fraud, because that would prove the lottery is fixed and he is
in cahoots with the fixers. Of course, the people who set up the lottery
should be arrested too.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 06:20:17 von Steve

>If he could in fact predict lottery numbers, he should be arrested and
>charged with fraud, because that would prove the lottery is fixed and he is
>in cahoots with the fixers. Of course, the people who set up the lottery
>should be arrested too.

I forecast. Lotto numbers are tough to break, one chance in 1000,
that's
why I don't spend all my time with them.

No, I actually favor lottos as the money at least gets put back into
the
state's budget and put to good use .. knocking on wood.
Ironically, the place that's corrupt is in the stock market.
And that I do have proof, and am not affiliated with any "cahooters"
only hooters on occasion.

Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 07:01:21 von Steve

MAJOR OOPS!!

I just noticed I had my "Draws Back" feature 'on' reading the
last draw which was 519 .. which still didn't sync with my forecast,
but much closer. I've been tired lately what can I say.

I'll disable my draws back button and retry fridays' midday draw.

stay tuned
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 07:29:02 von Steve

479 <== MY FRIDAY MIDDAY DAILY THREE LOTTO PICK

I will post my second place follow up numbers later.
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 08:23:02 von David Wilkinson

Steve wrote:
> MAJOR OOPS!!
>
> I just noticed I had my "Draws Back" feature 'on' reading the
> last draw which was 519 .. which still didn't sync with my forecast,
> but much closer. I've been tired lately what can I say.
>
> I'll disable my draws back button and retry fridays' midday draw.
>
> stay tuned
> Steve
>
Silly excuse. You have a one in a thousand chance of picking a three
digit lottery number correctly. You made one prediction and got it
wrong. No surprise there as that is the expected answer with a
probability of 0.999.

You don't seem to understand anything about statistics. A random event
is just that. Random. Look the word up in a dictionary if you don't
understand it. If you predict lottery numbers a thousand times your
expectation is that you will be right about once, with a standard
deviation you can work out. You could be right ten times in a row but
the probability is negligible, just 0.001^10 = 10^-30.

You can't predict lottery numbers correctly and to claim you can is daft.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 09:20:22 von Ed

"Steve" <> wrote

> >You have proven your worth.
>
> .. talk about rampant dislexia here lol. Anyone ever read the
> disclaimer I posted.
> Guess not, but I expected as much.
>
> I'll get better with time .. like good wine.
> So no worries.
> Steve

You have lots of disclaimers but you didn't have any when you first showed
up here. You presented yourself as "the answer". You have proven yourself to
be a confused wishful thinker. You are only kidding yourself, channel your
energy into something meaningful, you'll be better off for it. Just think,
fewer people will think less of you.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 09:22:07 von Ed

"Steve" <> wrote

> So there you go, I shouldn't give away my secrets so easy.

I think you should keep your nonsense to yourself as well.

> Just one to get you going.

Another one? No thanks.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 09:23:17 von Ed

"Steve" <> wrote

>I should add this is a TIME arc, not a PRICE arc, so while it
> reveals tops and bottoms in terms of TIME, it does NOT in
> terms of PRICE. Price arcs are needed for that. I can't give
> away all my secrets for free as I've worked too long and
> hard to get to this point.

I doubt anyone cares.

> You will see the price top out tomorrow.
> Steve

Let us know how it worked out.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 09:27:07 von Ed

"Steve" <> wrote

> No, I actually favor lottos as the money at least gets put back into
> the
> state's budget and put to good use .. knocking on wood.
> Ironically, the place that's corrupt is in the stock market.

You are confused. The stock market is corrupt and state government is not.
That's a good one, Steve.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 09:48:42 von jim

"Herb" <> wrote

> Why are you giving this guy the attention he craves? What is he giving
> you?

Why do you care?
Does it bother you? Apparently it does. Why?
Why don't you mind your own business?
Why are you such an asshole?

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 09:48:42 von Herb

"David Wilkinson" <> wrote in message
news:dkf28d$9qt$

> You don't seem to understand anything about statistics. A random event
> is just that. Random. Look the word up in a dictionary if you don't
> understand it. If you predict lottery numbers a thousand times your
> expectation is that you will be right about once, with a standard
> deviation you can work out. You could be right ten times in a row but
> the probability is negligible, just 0.001^10 = 10^-30.

Why are you giving this guy the attention he craves? What is he giving you?

--herb

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 11:32:37 von Steve

DAVID WILKINSON CHIMES IN:
>Silly excuse.

Silly? My C+ source code is silly .. lol.

>You have a one in a thousand chance of picking a three
>digit lottery number correctly. You made one prediction
and got it >wrong. No surprise there as that is the
expected answer with a >probability of 0.999.

>You don't seem to understand anything about statistics.
What have I stated wrong?

>A random event is just that. Random. Look the word up in a
>dictionary if you don't understand it.

I take it you don't trade coz that's precisely what you're
dealing with - random. If you trade, you've just made a
hypocrite out of yourself. If you don't then why the crap
are you interested in a NG talking about random events in
the first place?? How are you so sure that it's impossible
to forecast random events? Not being fascicious, just
curious.

>If you predict lottery numbers a thousand times your
>expectation is that you will be right about once, with a standard
>deviation you can work out. You could be right ten times in a row but
>the probability is negligible, just 0.001^10 = 10^-30.


>You can't predict lottery numbers correctly and to claim you can is daft.

I never made such a black and white claim .. if you'd only
read what was stated, you'd find out I said cracking lottos
is very very difficult, a chance of 1 in 1000 and that's
why I don't waste much time with them.
That is if you'd only ready .. obviously too much to ask for
for some.
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 11:32:59 von Steve

ED CHIMES IN:
>You have lots of disclaimers
No just one I think, but if there's two, that's still not
lots.

If you idiots want to take me to task for every undotted 'i'
then at least do it with a monicum of intelligence. Thank you.


>but you didn't have any when you first showed
>up here. You presented yourself as "the answer". You have proven yourself to
>be a confused wishful thinker. You are only kidding yourself, channel your
>energy into something meaningful, you'll be better off for it.


But at that point I was talking strictly "AMERICAN
STOCK MARKET" of which a position I still have and
have never once yet waivered from.

Again add some reality and sanity in your criticism
coz you do your argument zero good. I don't expect
you to change so I've gotta put you and other
incoherent mice here on permanent ignore. It adds
nothing to the newsgroup.

>Just think,fewer people will think less of you.

Just think, maybe I couldn't give two cents what dummies
think of me, .. just how they vote.

I'm more concerned with serious trader's views of the
future, and what tools they use. A tough calling here
apparently lol.

Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 11:33:22 von Steve

HERBIE BOY CHIMES IN:
>Why are you giving this guy the attention he craves?
What is he giving you?

The only craving I have here is for all you dolts
that have finished your dayjob at mcdonalds for the day
to find a new ng. Herb earns a first class seat on my
snore list.

I'm tired of swatting flies, any future offtopic posts
will get happily ignored.

Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 11:33:57 von Steve

OK here's the stragglers for tomorrows draw:

DIGIT THREE DIGIT TWO DIGIT ONE
89 239 6

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 11:43:04 von Ed

Forget about it. You are a waste of time.
I suppose if you guess 1,000 times and are wrong 1,000 times you'll still
think you can do it.





"Steve" <> wrote in message
news:
>
> OK here's the stragglers for tomorrows draw:
>
> DIGIT THREE DIGIT TWO DIGIT ONE
> 89 239 6
>
> Good luck,
> Steve
>

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 11:43:14 von Steve

OK here's the stragglers for tomorrows draw:

DIGIT THREE DIGIT TWO DIGIT ONE
89 239 6

Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 11:47:32 von Ed

"Steve" <> wrote

> ED CHIMES IN:
>>You have lots of disclaimers
> No just one I think, but if there's two, that's still not
> lots.
>
> If you idiots want to take me to task for every undotted 'i'
> then at least do it with a monicum of intelligence. Thank you.

We idiots?
You're the fool that 'forecast" the lotto number.

>>but you didn't have any when you first showed
>>up here. You presented yourself as "the answer". You have proven yourself
>>to
>>be a confused wishful thinker. You are only kidding yourself, channel your
>>energy into something meaningful, you'll be better off for it.
>
>
> But at that point I was talking strictly "AMERICAN
> STOCK MARKET" of which a position I still have and
> have never once yet waivered from.

You haven't shown us anything and you won't. If you believe what you think
you can do has value then stop fooling yourself.

> Again add some reality and sanity in your criticism
> coz you do your argument zero good. I don't expect
> you to change so I've gotta put you and other
> incoherent mice here on permanent ignore. It adds
> nothing to the newsgroup.

You add nothing to this group. You are a total idiot and a monumental waste
of time.

> I'm more concerned with serious trader's views of the
> future, and what tools they use. A tough calling here
> apparently lol.

Because you're a fake. You have done nothing but prove you are a fool.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 11:50:26 von Ed

"Steve" <> wrote

> The only craving I have here is for all you dolts
> that have finished your dayjob at mcdonalds for the day
> to find a new ng. Herb earns a first class seat on my
> snore list.

I'm sure Herbie doesn't care.

> I'm tired of swatting flies, any future offtopic posts
> will get happily ignored.

Most of your posts are off-topic.
Some people were just born to carry a bag of shit on their shoulders. Guys
like you make the rest of us feel blessed.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 11:55:14 von Ed

"Steve" <> wrote

> I take it you don't trade coz that's precisely what you're
> dealing with - random.

If you want credibility give us a list of 10 stocks that will close higher
than they open today.
Anytime before 9:30 EST is fine.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 11:58:27 von Steve

see lots of ed names .. sad he can't even understand that he's on
ignore
i don't read iggies posts there eddie, i'll save you some time
steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 12:06:26 von David Wilkinson

Steve wrote:
> see lots of ed names .. sad he can't even understand that he's on
> ignore
> i don't read iggies posts there eddie, i'll save you some time
> steve
>
Save us all some time by not posting this junk. Ed knows what he is
talking about. You don't.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 13:01:23 von Ed

You are an idiot.
You ignore but respond. How dumb is that?



"Steve" <> wrote in message
news:
> see lots of ed names .. sad he can't even understand that he's on
> ignore
> i don't read iggies posts there eddie, i'll save you some time
> steve
>

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 16:34:48 von NoEd

David,

We finally have something we can agree on. The radio and other media
outlets are full of wind bags such as Steve. The market simply cannot be
predicted. I call it the "gamblers delusion," the mental condition that
makes one believe that random events can somehow be predicted if the
"correct" information is properly utilized. The problem is there will never
be sufficient information that can be utilized to accurately and profitably
predict a random event, else it wouldn't be a random event. On many of the
roulette tables in Las Vegas they post the numbers that have hit recently.
They use this silly display knowing it will attract dorks who think that
somehow if a certain number has not hit recently it is more likely to come
up next. I guess is could be called the truckers guide to roulette.


"David Wilkinson" <> wrote in message
news:dkcb3d$s4k$
> Steve wrote:
>> I've included one last long range DOW JONES chart (click here):
>>
>>
>> The markets are definitely headed into stormy weather, hurricane
>> sized storms by 2011.
>>
>> BTW funny thing, my charts say the bottom is 2011 because
>> traditionally, years ending in 1's have been very bad for America
>> dating
>> back over 100 years. Coincidence? Could be. The Mayen calendar also
>> speaks of 2011 .. as the end of the world. And so does the Bible in
>> fact.
>> I ain't no nostril-dumbass, nor an Art Bell fan, nor believe in
>> superstition
>> of any kind, just funny how all four of these FACTS align to point to
>> 2011.
>>
>> Steve
>>
> What a load of rubbish! No one can accurately predict whether the market
> will go up or down tomorrow, or next week or next month, let alone by
> 2011. The good thing about 2001 is that no one will remember your
> prediction or who you are by then, or even by next week. And of course
> "Steve" is hardly a definitive name, unless you think you are the only one
> called that!
>
> Instead of filling the NG with junk why don't you predict something that
> can be tested. What will the Dow be at Friday close, with confidence
> limits?

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 17:04:47 von Ed

I see better odds with timing the market than with a roulette wheel, don't
you?
What does "a random event" have to do with timing the market? Maybe you mean
day trading? Do you understand that there is a difference between timing the
market and day trading?



"NoEd" <> wrote

> David,
>
> We finally have something we can agree on. The radio and other media
> outlets are full of wind bags such as Steve. The market simply cannot be
> predicted. I call it the "gamblers delusion," the mental condition that
> makes one believe that random events can somehow be predicted if the
> "correct" information is properly utilized. The problem is there will
> never be sufficient information that can be utilized to accurately and
> profitably predict a random event, else it wouldn't be a random event. On
> many of the roulette tables in Las Vegas they post the numbers that have
> hit recently. They use this silly display knowing it will attract dorks
> who think that somehow if a certain number has not hit recently it is more
> likely to come up next. I guess is could be called the truckers guide to
> roulette.
>
>
> "David Wilkinson" <> wrote in message
> news:dkcb3d$s4k$
>> Steve wrote:
>>> I've included one last long range DOW JONES chart (click here):
>>>
>>>
>>> The markets are definitely headed into stormy weather, hurricane
>>> sized storms by 2011.
>>>
>>> BTW funny thing, my charts say the bottom is 2011 because
>>> traditionally, years ending in 1's have been very bad for America
>>> dating
>>> back over 100 years. Coincidence? Could be. The Mayen calendar also
>>> speaks of 2011 .. as the end of the world. And so does the Bible in
>>> fact.
>>> I ain't no nostril-dumbass, nor an Art Bell fan, nor believe in
>>> superstition
>>> of any kind, just funny how all four of these FACTS align to point to
>>> 2011.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>> What a load of rubbish! No one can accurately predict whether the market
>> will go up or down tomorrow, or next week or next month, let alone by
>> 2011. The good thing about 2001 is that no one will remember your
>> prediction or who you are by then, or even by next week. And of course
>> "Steve" is hardly a definitive name, unless you think you are the only
>> one called that!
>>
>> Instead of filling the NG with junk why don't you predict something that
>> can be tested. What will the Dow be at Friday close, with confidence
>> limits?
>
>

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 17:20:03 von Kadaitcha Man

Steve wrote:
> OK here's the stragglers for tomorrows draw:
>
> DIGIT THREE DIGIT TWO DIGIT ONE
> 89 239 6
>
> Steve
>




















Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 17:20:42 von Kadaitcha Man

Steve wrote:
> OK here's the stragglers for tomorrows draw:
>
> DIGIT THREE DIGIT TWO DIGIT ONE
> 89 239 6
>
> Steve
>




















Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 17:24:20 von Kadaitcha Man

Steve the abnormal, phocine queen, and tub maker, poured
out:

>
> I'm tired of swatting flies, any future offtopic posts
> will get happily ignored.
>
> Steve
>

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Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 17:26:25 von Kadaitcha Man

Steve the pigeon-toed, poisonous traffic
warden, and tenant who is paid to service the Manor's grandmother,
illuminated:


> MAJOR OOPS!!
>

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 17:28:46 von Kadaitcha Man

Steve the gushy, drugged fruit custard, and operator of the
machine that makes things, castigated:


> HELP! lol
>
> Steve
>

you supercilious cunt.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 17:31:59 von Kadaitcha Man

Steve the mushy, red-rimmed pimp, and washer woman,
bellyached:


>
> If this arc is drawn right, you will see the price top out tomorrow.
> Steve
>

you duff cunt.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 22:28:52 von Steve

Cali midday draw results:
437
I keep getting the first digit in first place, the second digit very
close,
the third digit, this time in the middle about 4th place.
Good if you look at the odds, but not enough to count,
but like i said i need more time to be accurate every day.
So far my record is ok, but not earth shaking, I've hit 3 on paper
in the last i'd say 100 tries, meaning I never buy tickets, too much
work to get over to the corner store.
I get two out of digits about 10% of the time - which is 1% without
a system. I get within 8 tickets about 5% of the time - which is quite
good, just not good enough to be starting my car up every day ..yet.

I say 'yet' coz I've only begun to conquer lottos, but they're really
a challenge - something I enjoy.

I'll post a few more attempts hopefully.
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 22:34:07 von Steve

NO ED CHIMES IN:
>We finally have something we can agree on. The radio and other media
>outlets are full of wind bags such as Steve.

As I said I forecast. A wind bag, ok, at times, lol.

>The market simply cannot be
>predicted. I call it the "gamblers delusion," the mental condition that
>makes one believe that random events can somehow be predicted if the
>"correct" information is properly utilized. The problem is there will never
>be sufficient information that can be utilized to accurately and profitably
>predict a random event, else it wouldn't be a random event. On many of the
>roulette tables in Las Vegas they post the numbers that have hit recently.
>They use this silly display knowing it will attract dorks who think that
>somehow if a certain number has not hit recently it is more likely to come
>up next. I guess is could be called the truckers guide to roulette.

Wrong and wrongly put. But hey, look on the bright side, you are in the

majority here lol.

Steve, a majority of one,
PS I like your screename. Nice try, but no go.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 22:35:19 von Steve

kada on iggie if just for scrolling messages.
Steve, NG host

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 22:54:38 von Steve

Just realize I said 2 out of 3 digits = 1%; it's more like 3% since I
didn't specify the matched pair.
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 23:06:43 von Ed

"Steve" <> wrote

> Cali midday draw results:
> 437
> I keep getting the first digit in first place, the second digit very
> close,
> the third digit, this time in the middle about 4th place.

You lose. You're a loser. Go away. Crawl back into your cave.
Two trys, batting zero.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 23:33:52 von David Wilkinson

Steve wrote:
> Cali midday draw results:
> 437
> I keep getting the first digit in first place, the second digit very
> close,
> the third digit, this time in the middle about 4th place.
> Good if you look at the odds, but not enough to count,
> but like i said i need more time to be accurate every day.
> So far my record is ok, but not earth shaking, I've hit 3 on paper
> in the last i'd say 100 tries, meaning I never buy tickets, too much
> work to get over to the corner store.
> I get two out of digits about 10% of the time - which is 1% without
> a system. I get within 8 tickets about 5% of the time - which is quite
> good, just not good enough to be starting my car up every day ..yet.
>
> I say 'yet' coz I've only begun to conquer lottos, but they're really
> a challenge - something I enjoy.
>
> I'll post a few more attempts hopefully.
> Steve
>
So you got the number wrong again! Tell us something to surprise us.

Getting two digits right out of three is not a 1% probability. Getting
any one digit right is 1 in 10 or 0.1 probability. Getting two right is
0.1^2 or 0.01 or 1 in 100 probability. However there are three ways of
getting any two right, first and second, first and third and second and
third. So the probability of getting any two right is 3 x 0.01 = 0.03 or
1 in 33.

We only have your say so that you got two right 10% of the time. It's
possible that you did over a short period and limited number of trials,
like you can get several heads or tails in a row with coin tossing. Over
a large number of trials coin tossing tends to half and half and your 2
out of 3 right will probably go to 1 in 33. How many trials did you do?
You can't even work out the probability correctly so there is very
little chance you have done a statistically significant study.

It is much more likely you have a gambler's syndrome, that you remember
the "winners" more than the "losers" and think you are more successful
than you are. After all you claimed to be able to predict lottery
winners originally. Now you have backtracked to a slightly pathetic
getting two right out of three 10% of the time, itself probably an
exaggeration. All you are showing is that your lottery prediction claim
is bogus, like all your other claims, to being a successful trader and
predicting the Dow years ahead. You seem to be either in some sort of
Walter Mitty dreamworld or an incompetent would-be conman.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 23:45:30 von Ed

"David Wilkinson" <> wrote >

>You seem to be either in some sort of Walter Mitty dreamworld or an
>incompetent would-be conman.

Do you think that's where this is leading? I thought it might be.
Imagine, this guy selling his secret power of the arc? Well, always good to
end the week with a laugh.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 23:45:58 von Steve

DAVID WILKY on ignore for just being plain stupid.
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 23:47:56 von Steve

DAVID WILKY on ignore for just being plain stupid.
I don't hang with that kind of ilk.
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 04.11.2005 23:50:52 von Ed

I think you made his day!!





"Steve" <> wrote

> DAVID WILKY on ignore for just being plain stupid.
> Steve
>

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 05.11.2005 04:42:32 von Steve

Nobel Prize goes to "Emily Post" watch your p's and q's Don.
But stick to contributing to Grammar NGs, I'd appreciate it all the
more.

Ok onto what counts money talk..
Here's what I expect in the stock market for the next few months.
and it looks wwwwoonderful for the next few months.

CLICK LINK BELOW


Pretty much self explanatory. Look at the sweet bull price pocket.
It's a beauty. Santa Claus 2005 rally or not? What say you.

Steve

Curious what you genius market gurus think, but limit yourself to
ontopic
as I've stopped replying to all off-topic critics out there .. I mean
I've
stopped swatting flies lol. If I fail to dot every damn 't' here
especially ;)

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 05.11.2005 05:03:07 von Steve

If the 2005 Santa rally comes and/or January is hot, the
DOW JONES index will EASILY bounce OVER 12000
for an all-time high.

As the charts continue to develop of course my arcs can
be drawn more accurately (with time) to reveal a much more
narrow time frame for the next top.

Steve
PS I'm still bearish for very long term projections.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 05.11.2005 05:24:48 von Mark Freeland

David Wilkinson wrote:
>
>
> Getting two digits right out of three is not a 1% probability. Getting
> any one digit right is 1 in 10 or 0.1 probability. Getting two right is
> 0.1^2 or 0.01 or 1 in 100 probability. However there are three ways of
> getting any two right, first and second, first and third and second and
> third. So the probability of getting any two right is 3 x 0.01 = 0.03
> or 1 in 33.

I have no idea what the context is (too busy of late), but this begs for
comment. You are correct that there are three permutations of two
correct digits out of three. However, the probability of any one of
them is 0.1 * 0.1 * 0.9. Remember, not only must you get the specified
two digits correct, but you must get the third digit incorrect - there's
only a 90% chance of that third digit being wrong.

So the probability of getting any two right is 3 x 0.009 = 0.027 or
about 1 in 37.
--
Mark Freeland

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 05.11.2005 05:42:50 von Steve

Mark is more correct but neither of you Eisnteins are right,
In decimal num sys, two digit odds are 1/100 or 1% so i was right.
Getting two specified nums out of three right is still 1%.
Getting two unspecified nums out of three is 3 times easier, therefore
it's around 3%, but not exact.
Either way, cracking lottos full out is EXTREMELY tough.
Some here apparently don't agree.
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 05.11.2005 05:44:35 von Steve

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Mark is more correct but neither of you Eisnteins are totally right,
In decimal num sys, two digit odds are 1/100 or 1% so i was right.
Getting two specified nums out of three right is still 1%.
Getting two unspecified nums out of three is 3 times easier, therefore
it's around 3%, but not exact.

0.027 .. the prize goes to Mark.

Either way, cracking lottos full out is EXTREMELY tough.
Some here apparently don't agree.

Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 05.11.2005 09:49:00 von Herb

"David Wilkinson" <> wrote in message
news:dkhn1n$1b8$
> Mark Freeland wrote:
> > David Wilkinson wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Getting two digits right out of three is not a 1% probability. Getting
> >>any one digit right is 1 in 10 or 0.1 probability. Getting two right is
> >>0.1^2 or 0.01 or 1 in 100 probability. However there are three ways of
> >>getting any two right, first and second, first and third and second and
> >>third. So the probability of getting any two right is 3 x 0.01 = 0.03
> >> or 1 in 33.
> >
> >
> > I have no idea what the context is (too busy of late), but this begs for
> > comment. You are correct that there are three permutations of two
> > correct digits out of three. However, the probability of any one of
> > them is 0.1 * 0.1 * 0.9. Remember, not only must you get the specified
> > two digits correct, but you must get the third digit incorrect - there's
> > only a 90% chance of that third digit being wrong.
> >
> > So the probability of getting any two right is 3 x 0.009 = 0.027 or
> > about 1 in 37.
>
> Yes. Good point Mark!

It seems to me that getting three right satisfies the condition that you get
two right. I'm even more clueless than Mark about the context but I thought
it had to do with the probability of picking two numbers correctly (as
opposed to picking exactly two).

-herb

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 05.11.2005 10:31:37 von Steve

Sorry late comers, I've decided to pull my chart off the net. I've
found just plain too many blatent idiots here to give my work
away for free. Much better people deserve my work.
These waste-of-lifes frequent news groups just to say nothing.

I will just make calls from now on. No charts.

Right now as I see it, the DOW JONES Industrial Average index will
rocket past 12500 in early 2006. Today it closed at 10530.

There might even be a Santa Claus Rally this year (2005).

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 05.11.2005 10:42:02 von David Wilkinson

Herb wrote:
> "David Wilkinson" <> wrote in message
> news:dkhn1n$1b8$
>
>>Mark Freeland wrote:
>>
>>>David Wilkinson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Getting two digits right out of three is not a 1% probability. Getting
>>>>any one digit right is 1 in 10 or 0.1 probability. Getting two right is
>>>>0.1^2 or 0.01 or 1 in 100 probability. However there are three ways of
>>>>getting any two right, first and second, first and third and second and
>>>>third. So the probability of getting any two right is 3 x 0.01 = 0.03
>>>> or 1 in 33.
>>>
>>>
>>>I have no idea what the context is (too busy of late), but this begs for
>>>comment. You are correct that there are three permutations of two
>>>correct digits out of three. However, the probability of any one of
>>>them is 0.1 * 0.1 * 0.9. Remember, not only must you get the specified
>>>two digits correct, but you must get the third digit incorrect - there's
>>>only a 90% chance of that third digit being wrong.
>>>
>>>So the probability of getting any two right is 3 x 0.009 = 0.027 or
>>>about 1 in 37.
>>
>>Yes. Good point Mark!
>
>
> It seems to me that getting three right satisfies the condition that you get
> two right. I'm even more clueless than Mark about the context but I thought
> it had to do with the probability of picking two numbers correctly (as
> opposed to picking exactly two).
>
> -herb
>
>
As I said above, I was trying for the probability of getting any two
digits out of three in a lottery number right. Mark gave the correct
answer for this as 0.027 or 1 in 37. Getting either any two or all three
right has a probability of 0.028 or 1 in 36.

The original claim by "Steve" was that he could predict lottery winners
based on past results, an obviously fallacious claim. He has tried
several times and got it wrong every time and is now rapidly dissembling
and aiming for a lesser goal of getting any two digits right out of
three, which is totally pointless as there is no money in it.

All he has proved so far is that all his claims are just hot air.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 05.11.2005 11:17:11 von Ed

"Herb" <> wrote

> I'm even more clueless than just about anyone else when it comes to just
> about anything!

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 05.11.2005 11:18:51 von Ed

"Steve" <> wrote

> Sorry late comers, I've decided to pull my chart off the net. I've
> found just plain too many blatent idiots here to give my work
> away for free.

Over-priced at free. Keep it.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 05.11.2005 14:15:14 von Steve

Christmas Rally 2005 like no other!

Stocks are getting prime-rib ready to rally bigtime.

Get ready to liquidate all short positions!
Stocks will soar into 2006.

Nasdaq over 3000 Dow Jones over 12500 soon.

Bull are gonna go wild.

Watch it happen.

Some of the great buy opportunities building in the
next few weeks:

PMCS will be a good buy after it's bottom in a few weeks.
Gonna wait till it drops below 6 then snag it.

Others worth watching and waiting on:
GE, AAPL, EBAY

You heard it here.

Steve, stock advisor, entrepreneur, lotto forecaster,
sports picks advisor, tsunami/quake victim
lifesaver, et all.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 05.11.2005 15:23:47 von Steve

CALI MIDDAY DRAW LOTTO PICKS FOR SATURDAY NOV 5 2005:

DIGIT THREE DIG TWO DIG ONE
1 0 79 9 4 5 4 71

194 would be top choice.
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 05.11.2005 18:21:14 von Don Zimmerman

"Steve" <> wrote in message
news:
> Sorry late comers, I've decided to pull my chart off the net. I've
> found just plain too many blatent idiots here to give my work
> away for free. Much better people deserve my work.
> These waste-of-lifes frequent news groups just to say nothing.

Darned. I thought for sure you were going to give a link to a web site where
we could sign up for your system at $19.95 a month for the regular version
and $49.95 for the gold version.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 05.11.2005 18:59:33 von Steve

>Darned. I thought for sure you were going to give a link to a web site where
>we could sign up for your system at $19.95 a month for the regular version
>and $49.95 for the gold version.

No your wive's dinner is on, Me no charge. If you are a bachelor donate
to
a charity.

Steve.
Liquidate all shorts. Buy the next bottom. Rally's a comin' soon.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 05.11.2005 22:50:00 von sam grey

In article
<>,
"Steve" <> wrote:

> >Darned. I thought for sure you were going to give a link to a web site where
> >we could sign up for your system at $19.95 a month for the regular version
> >and $49.95 for the gold version.
>
> No your wive's dinner is on, Me no charge. If you are a bachelor donate
> to
> a charity.
>
> Steve.
> Liquidate all shorts. Buy the next bottom. Rally's a comin' soon.

So, you're saying you're giving out free advice? Wouldn't we
value it more if you charged for it?

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 06.11.2005 00:29:00 von Steve

>So, you're saying you're giving out free advice? Wouldn't we
>value it more if you charged for it?

Who knows. I don't read minds.

Draw results: 162
Looks like I keep hitting the third digit lol.
That's still pretty good .. about 3 times
better than the average joe playing,
but I'll get better with time.
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 06.11.2005 00:37:40 von Steve

>So, you're saying you're giving out free advice? Wouldn't
>we value it more if you charged for it?

What?! Maybe you. Smart people (like moi) think
those who have to charge for their financial 'advice' ..
have to charge for it as a means of income .. likely
their ONLY means. lol.

But who knows what people think, I don't read minds,
but better yet, who cares. I don't.

Draw results: 162

Looks like I keep hitting the third digit lol.
Consistantly nailing one of three digits
every draw is still above average .. almost
3 times better than the average drunk playing
lottos, even if you completely ignore the
other two digits, which I usually come close,
but I'll get even better with time.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 06.11.2005 00:45:16 von Steve

>So, you're saying you're giving out free advice? Wouldn't
>we value it more if you charged for it?

What?! Maybe you. Smart people (like moi) think
those who have to charge for their financial 'advice' ..
have to charge for it as a means of income .. likely
their ONLY means. lol.

But who knows what people think, I don't read minds,
but better yet, who cares. I don't.

Draw results: 162

Looks like I keep hitting the third digit lol.
Consistantly nailing one of three digits
every draw is still above average .. almost
3 times better than the average drunk playing
lottos, even if you completely ignore the
other two digits, which I usually come close,
but I'll get even better with time.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 06.11.2005 01:13:56 von Ed

"Steve" <> wrote

> Draw results: 162
> Looks like I keep hitting the third digit lol.
> That's still pretty good .. about 3 times
> better than the average joe playing,
> but I'll get better with time.
> Steve

You still lose, same as the average joe.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 06.11.2005 01:14:54 von Ed

What's with all the copy and paste crap.

"Steve" <> wrote

Same old junk.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 06.11.2005 01:35:27 von Steve

Ok Sunday's midday three pick forecast results:
DIG THREE DIG TWO DIG ONE
9 34 2 7 0 39 6 4 91 37

First choice: 976

Go out and buy tickets beginning with 9 lol

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 06.11.2005 06:30:08 von Steve

U.S. STOCKS TO RALLY MONDAY
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST

... and hold till mid week next week (NOV 7).

This nicle little ten-day stock market rally ain't quite finished.

There will be a SWWWWEEET Rally Monday.

You can see some of the rally signs developing here:



(some of the tools I use .. emphasis on some)

The DOW will soar past 10600 easily (100+ pt rally)

The nasdaq is almost a mirror image,
so most US Markets will enjoy a day of bliss
before slowing down.

Nas could easily see a 40+pt gain.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 06.11.2005 06:41:32 von Steve

US STOCKS UP BIGTIME MONDAY

EXPECT A SWEET RALLY MONDAY

DOW UP 100+
NAS UP 35+

CHECK IT OUT:



THIS TEN DAY RALLY AIN'T QUITE DONE.

REMEMBER, YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST.

GOOD LUCK
STEVE

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 06.11.2005 06:50:58 von Steve

US STOCKS UP BIGTIME MONDAY


EXPECT A SWEET RALLY MONDAY


DOW UP 100+
NAS UP 35+


CHECK IT OUT:





THIS TEN DAY RALLY AIN'T QUITE DONE.


REMEMBER, YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST.


GOOD LUCK
STEVE

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 06.11.2005 11:20:47 von Steve

U.S. STOCKS POISED TO HEAD MUCH HIGHER NEXT
FEW TRADING DAYS. (Week of NOV 7-11).


The last two week rally isn't done.

According to my latest chart:

you can see some of the rally signs developing to
drive stocks up the next couple days.

As seen in the chart, the DOW will soar past
10600 easily (100+ pt rally)

The nasdaq will mirror the bull move.
Naz could easily see a 40+pt gain.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 06.11.2005 11:55:48 von Steve

Here's how PMCS is maturing for a sweet buy position.
as you can see by the chart here:



the bottom should mature somewhere around early December.
Then I expect a December rally not only for PMCS but most
US stocks. If not then certainly a January-February 2006 rally.

Look for what I call price pockets (See chart)
... the bigger the better.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 06.11.2005 12:18:29 von Steve

Here's a look at my chart on PMCS stock.



Long position: Early December @ $5-6
(will know the actual bottom price/date
using tighter bar-freq charts as the bottom
matures.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 07.11.2005 00:23:46 von Steve

Love how all you obnoxiously loud no-life flies here get real quiet
right BEFORE my forecast results are known. Too scared to
criticize me for fear of being proven the real idiots .. they already
are.

Flies, your silence is deafening.

Hope I'm wrong this week if only to witness all the flies
crawl out of the sewers. Humans animals are funny.

;)

Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 07.11.2005 00:32:29 von Steve

Like how all you loud say-nothing nolife flies here
get really quiet just before my market forecast results are realized.

Too scared of being proven wrong? The silence proves they are.
and they've already proven how bright they are.

Hope my forecasts are wrong this week if only for the entertainment
value of watching the swarm of flies rise from the sewers.

;)

Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 07.11.2005 01:01:03 von Steve

lotto draw results for sunday 187
i was waaay off!

gonna alter my technique and try again
after the backtesting results are much better

good luck,
steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 07.11.2005 01:44:45 von Gary C

"Steve" <> wrote in message
news:

> lotto draw results for sunday 187
> i was waaay off!

So what else is new?

>
> gonna alter my technique and try again
> after the backtesting results are much better

Why don't you take up masterbation for YOURSELF,
instead of jerking us off?

>
> good luck,
> steve

BLOW ME!

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 07.11.2005 04:00:25 von Steve

Just got an idea, I do six number matrix's to arrive at a strike bar
(number).
I've made them so that the forecast bar of every matrix fires together.
This is done to help me dermine which forecast bar is best ripe to
rally.
Obviously I ain't getting the job done. So where to go next.
I thought about it and voila. Nowhere. I'm on the right track.
Just add something more.

My latest idea is why not join the matrix's into one chart! Voila!
Now think of it, the forecast bar will be SIX TIMES MORE INTENSE.

This will take me a few hours to write the code.
I will post the next forecast using this approach.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 07.11.2005 12:31:31 von Steve

My MIDDAY forecast for Monday NOV 7:

DIG 3 DIG 2 DIG 1
4 50 8 4 5 9 2


485 would be the top pick.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 07.11.2005 13:36:51 von sam grey

In article <dkmu7l$osl$>,
David Wilkinson <> wrote:

> Steve wrote:
> > lotto draw results for sunday 187
> > i was waaay off!
> >
> > gonna alter my technique and try again
> > after the backtesting results are much better
> >
> > good luck,
> > steve
> >
> You keep proving yourself wrong and the rest of the NG right. Don't you
> learn from experience? You can't predict random events. It is pointless
> trying to as no technique will work. You could have a million years
> worth of past lottery results and a supercomputer to do the sums and you
> would still have only a one in a thousand chance of guessing the next
> number.

David:

The guy knows this. He's pulling your leg.

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 08.11.2005 01:45:27 von Steve

U.S. Stocks to head higher.
This 2 week rally ain't matured yet.



Hope this chart helps.
Stay tuned.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 08.11.2005 02:02:48 von Steve

US Stocks to head even higher short term.
The two week rally top is still ahead.



Hope this chart helps.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 08.11.2005 07:15:09 von Steve

This two week bull rally tops out late wednesday - early thursday
morning (Nov 9-10).
Today is only monday Nov 7, so let's see how I do.

Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 08.11.2005 08:30:43 von Steve

This 20 day bull rally will continue upward another solid day.

I expect the top either late Tuesday or Wed am. (Nov 8-9).
Today is Monday Nov 7.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 08.11.2005 11:36:03 von Steve

Using arcs, I've eye-ball calculated the next long term top to be
41 business days from today (NOVEMBER 5, 2005). Assuming
there are about 4.7 business days per week average, the top is
8.7 weeks from today .. or January 11, 2006.

As we approach that date, the actual date of the top will
become clearer.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 08.11.2005 14:51:15 von Steve

Next major long range NIKKEI 225 index top: 17,000+ in September 2006.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 08.11.2005 18:26:26 von Steve

US mkts top out around mid wednesday.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 08.11.2005 18:47:34 von Steve

This 20 day bull rally will continue upward into mid Wednesday Nov 9th
topping out and reversing for another buy opportunity.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 08.11.2005 19:31:49 von Steve

US mkts top out around mid wednesday.
Nasdaq tops out 2200 area.

Good luck,
Steve


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Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 08.11.2005 19:36:39 von Steve

Dow Jones tops out in the 10,630 area.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 08.11.2005 19:36:59 von Steve

Dow Jones tops out this week in the 10,630 area.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 09.11.2005 01:32:56 von Steve

"US mkts top out late Wednesday - early Thusday."

This 20 day bull rally will end late Wednesday Nov 9th or
early Thursday Nov 10th topping out and reversing for another
buy opportunity.

Nasdaq tops out 2200 area.
Dow Jones tops out this week in the 10,630 area.
The bottom of this little two day bear move is over first thing
Wednesday.
Then up to the 20 day top. The actual time of the 20 day to will be
narrowed down when the next one day bull move is underway.

LONGTERM:
Next substantial longterm top for US Stock market: Mid January 2006.
I expect there will also be a SWEET Santa Rally this year (2005)
starting early-mid December.

The next substantial longterm top for NIKKEI jap market is September
area, 2006. It will move over 17000.

Your thoughts appreciated.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 09.11.2005 17:58:48 von Steve

This 20 day bull move will top out late THURSDAY (Nov 10, 2005).
It's early Wednesday (Nov 9) right now.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 09.11.2005 22:24:43 von Steve

20-day Nasdaq bull tops out around 2:20 PM tomorrow (Thursday Nov 10,
2005).

I haven't checked my Dow Jones charts (too busy) but (without
confirming)
I'm guessing there's a decent chance that the DOW top may arrive
at/near the
same time too.

Of course I could confirm this. I may get around to it by tomorrow 2
pm.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 09.11.2005 22:43:32 von Steve

GET YOUR SHORTS READY

This 20-day Nasdaq bull move ends tomorrow at around 2:20 PM
(Thursday Nov 10, 2005).

The actual very moment of the top (in minutes and seconds can also be
determined with my method as we approach that point in time).

I won't be posting my forecasts here for free much longer.
I do it as advertisement purposes only. My rates are very cheap.

If you want personal forecasts 2 year, 2 month, 2 weeks, 2 days
or 2 hour tops and bottoms forecasts, then just E-mail me
for prices. The first one's on me.

Not to toot my own horn, I've never met anyone time the
market as good as I do .. certainly not as far into the future.
Mistakes occur if I'm rushed, but I devote more time
to my clients than myself. There are no suits, you trust me
or you don't. If I'm wrong, the penalty I suffer is your
business. If you start out small no serious harm will
occur if worst comes to worst. Again you get one
intra-week forecast for free.

I haven't checked my Dow Jones charts (too busy), but
(without confirming) I'm guessing there's a decent chance
that the DOW top may arrive at/near the same time too.

Of course I could confirm this. I may get around to it by tomorrow 2
pm.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 10.11.2005 14:28:24 von Steve

After the afternoon top Thursday, the markets move down a little
only to bounce back yet again by mid week next week.
That will be the highest top yet. After that, it appears bearish
for about 3 weeks.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 10.11.2005 14:36:17 von Steve

I expect Thusday to be somewhat of a repeat day as Wednesday.
bouncing nicely midday,

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 10.11.2005 21:59:10 von Steve

Here's my shorterm forecast udpate:

Stocks move up further into Friday midday,
slide a little then moving back up into Wednesday
topping off for a 1-3 week bear move.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 10.11.2005 22:03:46 von Steve

Here's my shorterm outlook:

Stocks up again on Monday midday tapering off into Tuesday and
up even higher Wednesday, topping off sometime Wednesday or
Thursday for the beginning of a 1-3 week bear move.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 10.11.2005 23:16:44 von Steve

Dow Jones top for Friday Nov 11, 2005 (tomorrow): 1PM.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 10.11.2005 23:50:54 von Steve

Here's tight intraday update:
Dow Jones top for Friday Nov 11, 2005 (tomorrow): 11:30 AM.


Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 11.11.2005 01:53:13 von Steve

Here's my intraday stock market update:

I expect a lackluster day tomorrow
(Friday Nov 11, 2005):
(also Vets day).


NASDAQ

Nasdaq hits 2200 tomorrow by 11:45 AM.
It should end the day flat.
Naz on Monday should be down.
It will move back up one last
time by next Wednesday.

DOW JONES

Dow topped off today (Thursday)
It should end flat Friday or slightly
down. The DOW will continue down a day
or so then move back up for a final
top next week Wednesday ish.


I expect the Nasdaq to do a little better
then the DOW tomorrow.

I plan to stop or drastically slow my
intraday forecast posts in this NG
at least tentatively.

Good luck,
Steve

PS
If you want individual forecasts for 2 year,
2 month, 2 weeks, 2 days or 2 hour tops
and bottoms, E-mail me. my rates are inexpensive,
but I produce gainful results. The first
forecast is on me. I've yet to meat anyone
who can time the market as good, certainly not
as far into the future.
Mistakes occur if I'm rushed, but I devote
more time to my clients than myself.
If I'm wrong, the penalty I suffer is your
business. I suggest to start out with small
positions so that you will be safe.

Click "SHOW OPTIONS" (above) and then click
"REPLY TO AUTHOR."

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 11.11.2005 02:09:01 von Steve

Here's my intraday stock market update:

I expect a lackluster day tomorrow
(Friday Nov 11, 2005):
(also Vets day).


NASDAQ

Nasdaq hits 2200 tomorrow by 11:45 AM.
It should end the day flat.
Naz on Monday should be down.
It will move back up one last
time by next Wednesday.

DOW JONES

Dow topped off today (Thursday)
It should end flat Friday or slightly
down. The DOW will continue down a day
or so then move back up for a final
top next week Wednesday ish.


I expect the Nasdaq to do a little better
then the DOW tomorrow.

I plan to stop or drastically slow my
intraday forecast posts in this NG
at least tentatively.

Good luck,
Steve

PS
If you want individual forecasts for 2 year,
2 month, 2 weeks, 2 days or 2 hour tops
and bottoms, E-mail me. my rates are inexpensive,
but I produce gainful results. The first
forecast is on me. I've yet to meet anyone
who can time the market as good, certainly not
as far into the future.
Mistakes occur if I'm rushed, but I devote
more time to my clients than myself.
If I'm wrong, the penalty I suffer is your
business. I suggest to start out with small
positions so that you will be safe.

Click "SHOW OPTIONS" (above) and then click
"REPLY TO AUTHOR."

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 11.11.2005 02:24:20 von Steve

Here's my intraday stock market update:

(Friday Nov 11, 2005):
(also Vets day).


NASDAQ

Stocks up again Friday:
Nasdaq hits 2200 tomorrow by 11:45 AM.
DOW eclipses 10600 tomorrow about the same time.
I expect a lackluster end of day tomorrow
Mkts should end the day flat.
A down day Monday.
Then quickly head back up into Wednesday.

I expect the Nasdaq to do a little better
then the DOW tomorrow.

I plan to stop or drastically slow my
intraday forecast posts in this NG
at least tentatively.

Good luck,
Steve

PS
If you want individual forecasts for 2 year,
2 month, 2 weeks, 2 days or 2 hour tops
and bottoms, E-mail me. my rates are inexpensive,
but I produce gainful results. The first
forecast is on me. I've yet to meet anyone
who can time the market as good, certainly not
as far into the future.
Mistakes occur if I'm rushed, but I devote
more time to my clients than myself.
If I'm wrong, the penalty I suffer is your
business. I suggest to start out with small
positions so that you will be safe.

Click "SHOW OPTIONS" (above) and then click
"REPLY TO AUTHOR."

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 11.11.2005 06:17:09 von Steve

Here's my last intraday stock market
update for a bit:

(Friday Nov 11, 2005):
(also Vets day).

Stocks up again Friday:
Nasdaq hits 2200 tomorrow by 11:45 AM.
DOW eclipses 10600 tomorrow about the same time.
I expect a lackluster end of day tomorrow
Mkts should end the day flat.
A down day Monday.
Then quickly head back up into Wednesday.

I plan to stop or drastically slow my
intraday forecast posts in this NG
at least tentatively.

Good luck,
Steve

PS
If you want individual forecasts for 2 year,
2 month, 2 weeks, 2 days or 2 hour tops
and bottoms, E-mail me. my rates are inexpensive,
but I produce gainful results. The first
forecast is on me. I've yet to meet anyone
who can time the market as good, certainly not
as far into the future.
Mistakes occur if I'm rushed, but I devote
more time to my clients than myself.
If I'm wrong, the penalty I suffer is your
business. I suggest to start out with small
positions so that you will be safe.

Click "SHOW OPTIONS" (above) and then click
"REPLY TO AUTHOR."

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 11.11.2005 20:23:14 von Steve

Forecast Update,

The bulk of U.S. stocks continue up into monday topping off by midday.

Good luck,
Steve

Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET

am 13.11.2005 06:07:23 von Steve

Next Nasdaq top: November 25, 2005 at 2235.

This is my last forecast post here.
I found a much better NG.

Hooray!

Good luck,
Steve