charting - fund with div payout

charting - fund with div payout

am 20.02.2006 22:14:14 von Phil Schuman

I was looking over some of my funds, and their charts...
How can you really tell how things are going,
when the amount of the upcoming div payout
causes the price to increase, and then sawtooth fall after.


It's like you have to somehow chart the baseline (post-div price)
and see how that is changing....

Re: charting - fund with div payout

am 20.02.2006 22:23:52 von Jun_Yu

>> I was looking over some of my funds, and their charts...
>> How can you really tell how things are going,

Yahoo does not adjust NAV for dividends & capital gains. Yahoo's
charts are not good for that sort of use. But yahoo adjusts price for
stock splits.

Re: charting - fund with div payout

am 20.02.2006 22:47:31 von Mark Freeland

Jun_Yu wrote:
>
> >> I was looking over some of my funds, and their charts...
> >> How can you really tell how things are going,
>
> Yahoo does not adjust NAV for dividends & capital gains. Yahoo's
> charts are not good for that sort of use. But yahoo adjusts price for
> stock splits.

Yahoo does adjust its data for distributions - it just doesn't plot the
adjusted prices. If you go to:


you'll get historical prices for your fund of interest, with a column
labeled "Adj Close". Right now, it says 60.11 (the same as the actual
close). If you scroll down to Dec 16, 2005, you'll see a distribution
of $5.754/share.

This is reflected in the actual price (that dropped from 63.94 prior to
58.16 post distribution). Yet the adjusted price dropped only 3c
(normal daily fluctuation), from 58.19 to 58.16.

If you insist on graphs, you can download the datasheet as a comma
separated set of values (csv file), and plot with your favourite
graphing tool. (See the link at the bottom of the page, labeled
"Download to Spreadsheet.)

Alternatively, you can look at Morningstar - it gives you performance
for past day, week, 4 weeks, 3 month, YTD, 1 year, 3 year, 5 year, and
10 year. It also gives you a plot of total return vs. category average
and vs. S&P 500 over the past 10 years (or life of fund).


--
Mark Freeland

Re: charting - fund with div payout

am 20.02.2006 23:25:52 von Jun_Yu

I was referring to yahoo charts. But you are correct. Yahoo has
adjusted NAVs.

Re: charting - fund with div payout

am 21.02.2006 01:33:42 von Flasherly

Mark Freeland wrote:
> If you insist on graphs, you can download the datasheet as a comma
> separated set of values (csv file), and plot with your favourite
> graphing tool. (See the link at the bottom of the page, labeled
> "Download to Spreadsheet.)

To do favorite graphs, I'd begin to wonder how much of a mathmatical
background Excel requires, if not direct binary links to programming
routines. Scottrade has a lot of technical graphs for a nominal fee,
even though I personally wouldn't favor graphing, singlehandidly, for
more a mantra than are three or four other Keynesian precepts listed
for fine investment.

-E to mc^2 is to Friedman as the velocity given masses of money not
hoarded are to an inverse square profitability propitiates.

Re: charting - fund with div payout

am 21.02.2006 02:12:36 von Ell

"Mark Freeland" <> wrote
> Yahoo does adjust its data for distributions - it just doesn't plot the
> adjusted prices. If you go to:
>
>
> you'll get historical prices for your fund of interest, with a column
> labeled "Adj Close". Right now, it says 60.11 (the same as the actual
> close). If you scroll down to Dec 16, 2005, you'll see a distribution
> of $5.754/share.
>
> This is reflected in the actual price (that dropped from 63.94 prior to
> 58.16 post distribution). Yet the adjusted price dropped only 3c
> (normal daily fluctuation), from 58.19 to 58.16.

Where on earth is your warning that Yahoo's finance site often has
inaccuracies?

Re: charting fund - post distribution

am 21.02.2006 02:37:57 von Phil Schuman

"Mark Freeland" <> wrote in message
news:
>
> Yahoo does adjust its data for distributions - it just doesn't plot
the
> adjusted prices. If you go to:
>
>
> you'll get historical prices for your fund of interest, with a column
> labeled "Adj Close". Right now, it says 60.11 (the same as the actual
> close). If you scroll down to Dec 16, 2005, you'll see a distribution
> of $5.754/share.
>
> This is reflected in the actual price (that dropped from 63.94 prior
to
> 58.16 post distribution). Yet the adjusted price dropped only 3c
> (normal daily fluctuation), from 58.19 to 58.16.
>
tnx -
I was just suprised that there was no option in the charting sites I
visited
that could graph via the adjusted price.... taking into account the
distribution -

Re: charting fund - post distribution

am 21.02.2006 03:11:26 von Jun_Yu

>>tnx -
>>I was just suprised that there was no option in the charting sites I visited
>>that could graph via the adjusted price.... taking into account the distribution

Subscription software & data vendors have this option.

I think free sites don't have this option.

But some free sites adjust charts for stock splits.