Re: mimf challenge report?

Do a search on rankings and you will get them all.

"David Wilkinson" <> wrote in message
news:du55jt$pld$
>I have published them here, in mimf.
>
> "SD" <> wrote in message
> news:du5454$12j$
>> David Wilkinson wrote:
>>> I have published them every Saturday so far, TK, 8 of them in all. I
>>> don't see how you could miss them.
>>
>> Where have you published them? I am yet to see one too.
>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> "TK Sung" <> wrote in message
>>> news:
>>>
>>>>Haven't seen this for a while. What's happening, David?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Re: mimf challenge report?

David, I just searched your name. Then I searched in that group and the
last/only one was "mimf2006 Rankings (by hand)" dated 1/7/2006. You were
having problems posting it.




"David Wilkinson" <> wrote in message
news:du55qb$lbi$
> Do a search on rankings and you will get them all.
>
> "David Wilkinson" <> wrote in message
> news:du55jt$pld$
>>I have published them here, in mimf.
>>
>> "SD" <> wrote in message
>> news:du5454$12j$
>>> David Wilkinson wrote:
>>>> I have published them every Saturday so far, TK, 8 of them in all. I
>>>> don't see how you could miss them.
>>>
>>> Where have you published them? I am yet to see one too.
>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> "TK Sung" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:
>>>>
>>>>>Haven't seen this for a while. What's happening, David?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>

Re: mimf challenge report?

Evojeesus wrote:
>
> Usenet groups are supposedly text-based, no code or attachements please.
>
The attachments are text-encoded and posted as text. How do you think
all those alt.binaries.* work?

Re: mimf challenge report?

David Wilkinson wrote:
> Ok. Thanks for your replies. It looks as though attachments do not work on
> mimf postings. But why did not someone tell me before? I have put out 8 of
> them so far and they work for me.
>
David, I think you are still having problem with your news
reader/writer. See

for an example of binary/html attachment. (It was posted off my
Outlook exp). Do test/practice on alt.test if you continue to have
problem Or, just post as text as you just did.

Re: mimf challenge report?

Hey David, my web posting offer still stands :) Email to dalalsid gmail and I'll
put them on my site and post the link here.

TK Sung wrote:
> David Wilkinson wrote:
>
>>Ok. Thanks for your replies. It looks as though attachments do not work on
>>mimf postings. But why did not someone tell me before? I have put out 8 of
>>them so far and they work for me.
>>
>
> David, I think you are still having problem with your news
> reader/writer. See
>
> for an example of binary/html attachment. (It was posted off my
> Outlook exp). Do test/practice on alt.test if you continue to have
> problem Or, just post as text as you just did.
>

Re: mimf challenge report?

I can see this. Looks good. But yeah, until now we didn't see any. I
just thought you were still figuring out the formatting issue. <-:

As of February 28, the one and three year returns on the "Ram2"
portfolio are 14.7 and 18.8% (there's also DCA which is not being taken
into account in this contest).

Ram1, which is only VGSIX, has had a return of 10.1% this year as of
March 1 (and one and five year annual returns of 30% and 20% as of
February 28).

Since we are doing this, it'd be good to keep a "forever" contest in
parallel to the one year contest, so that long term progress can be
tracked.

--Ram

David Wilkinson <> wrote:

> Ok. Thanks for your replies. It looks as though attachments do not work on
> mimf postings. But why did not someone tell me before? I have put out 8 of
> them so far and they work for me.

> This is the ranking at the end of last week, as of 25 Feb 2006:

> 1 Mark $112,119
> 2 tksung $111.085
> 3 Kaspa_ETF $108,916
> 4 Ram1 $107,570
> 5 DavidOH ?105,217
> 6 David ?105,004
> 7 StevenL $104,872
> 8 mkusuma $104,824
> 9 FTSE100 ?103,449
> 10 Ram2 $103,328
> 11 Sidharth $103,309
> 12 S&P500 $103,189
> 13 msf $103,079
> 14 Gary $102,966
> 15 "Ed" $102,468
> 16 NoEd $102,255
> 17 Sam $101,585
> 18 New_Yorker $100,000
> 19 Kaspa_Timing $78,692



> "SD" <> wrote in message
> news:du6ulo$pmm$
>>I see this but no attachment.
>>

Re: mimf challenge report?

Yeah this is a good idea. We can use the mimf2006 as our forever contest and
from next year we can stop adding the year to the contest and just call it mimf
so we have the same username and password every year and just have our
portfolios deleted. I see no point in creating a new account every year.

Ram Samudrala wrote:
> I can see this. Looks good. But yeah, until now we didn't see any. I
> just thought you were still figuring out the formatting issue. <-:
>
> As of February 28, the one and three year returns on the "Ram2"
> portfolio are 14.7 and 18.8% (there's also DCA which is not being taken
> into account in this contest).
>
> Ram1, which is only VGSIX, has had a return of 10.1% this year as of
> March 1 (and one and five year annual returns of 30% and 20% as of
> February 28).
>
> Since we are doing this, it'd be good to keep a "forever" contest in
> parallel to the one year contest, so that long term progress can be
> tracked.
>
> --Ram
>
> David Wilkinson <> wrote:
>
>
>>Ok. Thanks for your replies. It looks as though attachments do not work on
>>mimf postings. But why did not someone tell me before? I have put out 8 of
>>them so far and they work for me.
>
>
>>This is the ranking at the end of last week, as of 25 Feb 2006:
>
>
>>1 Mark $112,119
>>2 tksung $111.085
>>3 Kaspa_ETF $108,916
>>4 Ram1 $107,570
>>5 DavidOH ?105,217
>>6 David ?105,004
>>7 StevenL $104,872
>>8 mkusuma $104,824
>>9 FTSE100 ?103,449
>>10 Ram2 $103,328
>>11 Sidharth $103,309
>>12 S&P500 $103,189
>>13 msf $103,079
>>14 Gary $102,966
>>15 "Ed" $102,468
>>16 NoEd $102,255
>>17 Sam $101,585
>>18 New_Yorker $100,000
>>19 Kaspa_Timing $78,692
>
>
>
>
>>"SD" <> wrote in message
>>news:du6ulo$pmm$
>>
>>>I see this but no attachment.
>>>
>
>
>

Re: mimf challenge report?

TK Sung wrote:
> Evojeesus wrote:

> > Usenet groups are supposedly text-based, no code or attachements please.

> The attachments are text-encoded and posted as text. How do you think
> all those alt.binaries.* work?

In the long run those posts do not exist as Google does not archive
them.

Re: mimf challenge report?

I was not suggesting deleting the portfolios--they can just be
modified, but you'll start with what you were left with. This would
run in parallel to the yearly contest. The idea is that if you make
50K in one year and lose 50K the previous year, you're worse off than
someone who even made 1K only in each year.

--Ram

SD <> wrote:

> Yeah this is a good idea. We can use the mimf2006 as our forever contest and
> from next year we can stop adding the year to the contest and just call it mimf
> so we have the same username and password every year and just have our
> portfolios deleted. I see no point in creating a new account every year.

> Ram Samudrala wrote:
>> I can see this. Looks good. But yeah, until now we didn't see any. I
>> just thought you were still figuring out the formatting issue. <-:
>>
>> As of February 28, the one and three year returns on the "Ram2"
>> portfolio are 14.7 and 18.8% (there's also DCA which is not being taken
>> into account in this contest).
>>
>> Ram1, which is only VGSIX, has had a return of 10.1% this year as of
>> March 1 (and one and five year annual returns of 30% and 20% as of
>> February 28).
>>
>> Since we are doing this, it'd be good to keep a "forever" contest in
>> parallel to the one year contest, so that long term progress can be
>> tracked.
>>
>> --Ram
>>
>> David Wilkinson <> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ok. Thanks for your replies. It looks as though attachments do not work on
>>>mimf postings. But why did not someone tell me before? I have put out 8 of
>>>them so far and they work for me.
>>
>>
>>>This is the ranking at the end of last week, as of 25 Feb 2006:
>>
>>
>>>1 Mark $112,119
>>>2 tksung $111.085
>>>3 Kaspa_ETF $108,916
>>>4 Ram1 $107,570
>>>5 DavidOH ?105,217
>>>6 David ?105,004
>>>7 StevenL $104,872
>>>8 mkusuma $104,824
>>>9 FTSE100 ?103,449
>>>10 Ram2 $103,328
>>>11 Sidharth $103,309
>>>12 S&P500 $103,189
>>>13 msf $103,079
>>>14 Gary $102,966
>>>15 "Ed" $102,468
>>>16 NoEd $102,255
>>>17 Sam $101,585
>>>18 New_Yorker $100,000
>>>19 Kaspa_Timing $78,692
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>"SD" <> wrote in message
>>>news:du6ulo$pmm$
>>>
>>>>I see this but no attachment.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: mimf challenge report?

>
> Yeah, every solution just gets more complicated but I certainly would
> like to see cumulative performance. I guess a simple thing to do is to
> calculate rate of return for year, and then just look at the
> cumulative rate of return.

That is doable. When I find free time, I'll make a table on my site with
everyones performance from past years and update that at the end of each year

It would look like:

Name 2005 2006
ABCD 13% 10%
asdasd -5% 15%

If someone is willing to design a table that can provide more data, I'll
definitely put it up.

SD

> --Ram
>
>
>>Ram Samudrala wrote:
>>
>>>I was not suggesting deleting the portfolios--they can just be
>>>modified, but you'll start with what you were left with. This would
>>>run in parallel to the yearly contest. The idea is that if you make
>>>50K in one year and lose 50K the previous year, you're worse off than
>>>someone who even made 1K only in each year.
>>>
>>>--Ram
>>>
>>>SD <> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Yeah this is a good idea. We can use the mimf2006 as our forever contest and
>>>
>>>>from next year we can stop adding the year to the contest and just call it mimf
>>>
>>>>so we have the same username and password every year and just have our
>>>>portfolios deleted. I see no point in creating a new account every year.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ram Samudrala wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I can see this. Looks good. But yeah, until now we didn't see any. I
>>>>>just thought you were still figuring out the formatting issue. <-:
>>>>>
>>>>>As of February 28, the one and three year returns on the "Ram2"
>>>>>portfolio are 14.7 and 18.8% (there's also DCA which is not being taken
>>>>>into account in this contest).
>>>>>
>>>>>Ram1, which is only VGSIX, has had a return of 10.1% this year as of
>>>>>March 1 (and one and five year annual returns of 30% and 20% as of
>>>>>February 28).
>>>>>
>>>>>Since we are doing this, it'd be good to keep a "forever" contest in
>>>>>parallel to the one year contest, so that long term progress can be
>>>>>tracked.
>>>>>
>>>>>--Ram
>>>>>
>>>>>David Wilkinson <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Ok. Thanks for your replies. It looks as though attachments do not work on
>>>>>>mimf postings. But why did not someone tell me before? I have put out 8 of
>>>>>>them so far and they work for me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>This is the ranking at the end of last week, as of 25 Feb 2006:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>1 Mark $112,119
>>>>>>2 tksung $111.085
>>>>>>3 Kaspa_ETF $108,916
>>>>>>4 Ram1 $107,570
>>>>>>5 DavidOH ?105,217
>>>>>>6 David ?105,004
>>>>>>7 StevenL $104,872
>>>>>>8 mkusuma $104,824
>>>>>>9 FTSE100 ?103,449
>>>>>>10 Ram2 $103,328
>>>>>>11 Sidharth $103,309
>>>>>>12 S&P500 $103,189
>>>>>>13 msf $103,079
>>>>>>14 Gary $102,966
>>>>>>15 "Ed" $102,468
>>>>>>16 NoEd $102,255
>>>>>>17 Sam $101,585
>>>>>>18 New_Yorker $100,000
>>>>>>19 Kaspa_Timing $78,692
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"SD" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:du6ulo$pmm$
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I see this but no attachment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

Re: mimf challenge report?

"SD" <> wrote
Ram
>> Yeah, every solution just gets more complicated but I
>> certainly would
>> like to see cumulative performance.

You're just talking about graphing a buy and hold strategy.
That's available at any decent stock graphing site. What you
propose is meaningless, since no one is per se proposing as
a strategy just holding their previous year's positions as
of Dec. 31. Fact: Some of those end of contest positions are
going to do well; some poorly, for the long term.

>> I guess a simple thing to do is to
>> calculate rate of return for year, and then just look at
>> the
>> cumulative rate of return.
>
> That is doable. When I find free time, I'll make a table
> on my site with everyones performance from past years and
> update that at the end of each year

I wouldn't get sucked into doing meaningless work by someone
with too much time on his hands. From all the signs I've
seen here, Ram has an addiction to churning numbers. It's no
different from seeking patterns in the stars to predict
patterns in the stock markets.

But I guess it's your time to waste <shrug>.

Re: mimf challenge report?

"Elle" <> wrote

> You're just talking about graphing a buy and hold strategy. That's
> available at any decent stock graphing site.

No it isn't.

> I wouldn't get sucked into doing meaningless work by someone with too much
> time on his hands. From all the signs I've seen here, Ram has an addiction
> to churning numbers. It's no different from seeking patterns in the stars
> to predict patterns in the stock markets.

Don't knock it.