Cheques - payable to bank account number?
Cheques - payable to bank account number?
am 10.06.2006 14:13:23 von John Smith
Hi,
This is a silly thought that has gone through my mind but... can you pay
cheques to a specific bank account number?
I mean, if I was writing a cheque to 'Joe Davies' could I instead just write
the cheque, replacing 'Joe Davies' in the 'To' line, with his bank account
number of XXXXXXXXX?
Just a thought - wouldn't that be more secure?
John.
Re: Cheques - payable to bank account number?
am 10.06.2006 14:48:15 von Tiddy Ogg
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:13:23 GMT, "John Smith"
<> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>This is a silly thought that has gone through my mind but... can you pay
>cheques to a specific bank account number?
>
>I mean, if I was writing a cheque to 'Joe Davies' could I instead just write
>the cheque, replacing 'Joe Davies' in the 'To' line, with his bank account
>number of XXXXXXXXX?
>
>Just a thought - wouldn't that be more secure?
More prone to error though, writing a string of digits without any
validation char.
Tiddy Ogg.
Re: Cheques - payable to bank account number?
am 10.06.2006 15:36:31 von Tim
> "John Smith" wrote:
> >This is a silly thought that has gone through my mind but...
> >can you pay cheques to a specific bank account number?
> >
> >I mean, if I was writing a cheque to 'Joe Davies' could I
> >instead just write the cheque, replacing 'Joe Davies' in the
> >'To' line, with his bank account number of XXXXXXXXX?
> >
> >Just a thought - wouldn't that be more secure?
>
"Tiddy Ogg" wrote
> More prone to error though, writing a
> string of digits without any validation char.
Don't bank a/c nos include a validation char already?
Re: Cheques - payable to bank account number?
am 10.06.2006 20:00:46 von john boyle
In message <DHyig.24419$>, John Smith
<> writes
>Hi,
>
>This is a silly thought that has gone through my mind but... can you pay
>cheques to a specific bank account number?
>
>I mean, if I was writing a cheque to 'Joe Davies' could I instead just write
>the cheque, replacing 'Joe Davies' in the 'To' line, with his bank account
>number of XXXXXXXXX?
No, it wouldnt be a cheque anymore. The definition of a cheque is a bill
of exchange, payable on demand, drawn on a banker. A Bill of Exchange is
defined as an unconditional order in writing, addressed by one *person
to another*.....
A mere number is impersonal. A cheque form bearing an impersonal payee,
(other examples are 'cash' or 'wages') were deemed not to be cheques in
Orbit Mining & Trading v NatWest 1962 although that case did not exempt
the cheque form from being handled as though it was a cheque but the
circumstances were quite different to here.
>
>Just a thought - wouldn't that be more secure?
No, because account numbers are not unique. The same account number will
occur at a number of branches of the original clearing banks. This does
not happen for the new pretend banks, like Halifax etc., who oonly have
one sorting code number.
--
John Boyle
Re: Cheques - payable to bank account number?
am 10.06.2006 20:16:19 von john boyle
In message <> writes
>"Tiddy Ogg" wrote
>> More prone to error though, writing a
>> string of digits without any validation char.
>
>Don't bank a/c nos include a validation char already?
Thats right, they do.
--
John Boyle
Re: Cheques - payable to bank account number?
am 10.06.2006 20:18:49 von Mike Scott
John Boyle wrote:
> In message <DHyig.24419$>, John Smith
> <> writes
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is a silly thought that has gone through my mind but... can you pay
>> cheques to a specific bank account number?
>>
>> I mean, if I was writing a cheque to 'Joe Davies' could I instead just
>> write
>> the cheque, replacing 'Joe Davies' in the 'To' line, with his bank
>> account
>> number of XXXXXXXXX?
> No, it wouldnt be a cheque anymore. The definition of a cheque is a bill
> of exchange, payable on demand, drawn on a banker. A Bill of Exchange is
> defined as an unconditional order in writing, addressed by one *person
> to another*.....
>
> A mere number is impersonal. ...
OK, playing devil's advocate, how about making the cheque payable to the
person, and endorsing it to the effect it must be paid into a particular
account number? It would, if nothing else, alert the receiving bank
staff to a potential problem.
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Re: Cheques - payable to bank account number?
am 10.06.2006 20:39:22 von john boyle
In message <d2Eig.16003$>, Mike Scott
<> writes
>>>, replacing 'Joe Davies' in the 'To' line, with his bank account
>>> number of XXXXXXXXX?
>> No, it wouldnt be a cheque anymore. The definition of a cheque is a
>>bill of exchange, payable on demand, drawn on a banker. A Bill of
>>Exchange is defined as an unconditional order in writing, addressed
>>by one *person to another*.....
>> A mere number is impersonal. ...
>
>OK, playing devil's advocate, how about making the cheque payable to
>the person, and endorsing it to the effect it must be paid into a
>particular account number? It would, if nothing else, alert the
>receiving bank staff to a potential problem.
>
That would work. In fact the origination of the words '& Co' on the old
cheque crossing derives from a similar system years ago. When the drawer
wanted to ensure that the cheque was to be collected by a particular
bank they would write 'Barclays Bank & Co' with two lines across the
cheque. This then became merely '& Co' meaning the cheque had to go into
a bank account and couldnt be paid as cash.
I see no problem with your suggestion.
--
John Boyle